NZ's top ref kept out of South Africa??

[FlukeArtist]

Hey at least he didn't try and claim that Lawrence is the sole reason SA didn't win the RWC again.

Some of the stuff I read after that game on SA sites... honestly; you would have sworn they were the best team on the planet by a country mile and shoe-ins for the title, but they were unfairly robbed of it by a massive conspiracy to allow NZ to win that reached as high as the leadership of the IRB.
And not the same team I saw scrape by Wales and Samoa and blow massive amounts of possession against Australia.

Take heart though SA (and Australia) - you'll probably beat NZ now they are without Henry.... either this year or next.

I have serious resevations Hansen and Foster are up to the job.
Jamie Joseph will be the coach by the next World Cup

 

[smartcooky]

if you just watch some video's of the moon landing, you'd see plenty of evidence that it's faked.

Now this is off topic, but since you raised this, and the original topic is a dead duck, I'm going to answer this statement.

The lunar landings were not faked, and there is proof positive that at least six astronauts reached the moon and returned to earth.

The astronauts of Apollo 11, 14 and 15 deployed reflectors on the moon to allow astronomers and astrophysicists on the Earth to measure the distance from the Earth to the moon using a laser. The technique is called, "Lunar Laser Ranging" (obviously) and its accuracy is measured in millimetres.

In order to do this, the reflectors had to be precisely placed on the Lunar surface to within less than one metre of a defined spot, and aligned with the earth-bound laser emitting station to an accuracy of better than 5 arcminutes (about a twelfth of one degree.) achieve this task, the reflectors had to be aligned manually, with the ground station and the astronaut in radio communications, the ground station giving instructions and the astronaut making minute adjustments.

This task would have been utterly impossible to achieve automatically by remote control from the earth given the technology of the time. Even now, NASA cannot reliably put a soft lander on the Moon to an accuracy of better than about 3 metres.

The Lunar Laser Reflectors are actually on the moon (they are in fact still functioning), and they had to be manually installed, ergo, someone must have gone there to install them. Q.E.D, and case closed!

 

[smartcooky]

then we had the south African TMO who made a mockery of the rules last year ruling on a pass outside the in goal area

...and an Irish referee who allowed him to do it, instead of doing what Steve Walsh did when he had another TMO (also South African as it happen) try to tell him stuff that was outside his remit! Walsh told him to shut up, answer the question and don't volunteer information.

 

[Sam Owen]

You really shouldnt mess with Bryce. Heres a photo of Bryce, he's about to chuck Matfield on the floor and pound him but a fellow Springbok comes over and stops it.

 

[TNT88]

Now this is off topic, but since you raised this, and the original topic is a dead duck, I'm going to answer this statement.

The lunar landings were not faked, and there is proof positive that at least six astronauts reached the moon and returned to earth.

The astronauts of Apollo 11, 14 and 15 deployed reflectors on the moon to allow astronomers and astrophysicists on the Earth to measure the distance from the Earth to the moon using a laser. The technique is called, "Lunar Laser Ranging" (obviously) and its accuracy is measured in millimetres.

In order to do this, the reflectors had to be precisely placed on the Lunar surface to within less than one metre of a defined spot, and aligned with the earth-bound laser emitting station to an accuracy of better than 5 arcminutes (about a twelfth of one degree.) achieve this task, the reflectors had to be aligned manually, with the ground station and the astronaut in radio communications, the ground station giving instructions and the astronaut making minute adjustments.

This task would have been utterly impossible to achieve automatically by remote control from the earth given the technology of the time. Even now, NASA cannot reliably put a soft lander on the Moon to an accuracy of better than about 3 metres.

The Lunar Laser Reflectors are actually on the moon (they are in fact still functioning), and they had to be manually installed, ergo, someone must have gone there to install them. Q.E.D, and case closed!

My comment about moon landings, was pointing out that when someone claims evidence for their view is just "somewhere in some video's" (in this case, Bryce being "rubbish" is just "in all his games"), they may as well accept the moon landing was a hoax by their same logic. Because that is exactly the kind of thing conspiracy nuts say as well.

But your post was not wasted. It is an argument I'll take on board when confronting nutjobs in the future! Thanks.

 

[smartcooky]

But your post was not wasted. It is an argument I'll take on board when confronting nutjobs in the future! Thanks.

No problem. I only wish I had a similar open and shut argument for whenever I run into one of those "Kennedy/Grassy Knoll/Second Gunman" nutjobs!

 

[ranger]

in part, but the use of the TMO is far better in league and how they give advantage to the attacking team with trys (benefit of the the doubt). so often now defending players do what they can to block the camera shot knowing that if the TMO can't see the try it wont be awarded.

then we had the south African TMO who made a mockery of the rules last year ruling on a pass outside the in goal area

I seriously doubt this is the case..

 

[Hairy Scot]

Nope. It's just that when you post a thread based purely on opinion and represent it as fact, people's BS meter goes off and everyone responds in such a matter. And be a bit more original with your ideas for a thread

I would have thought it was obvious that I was expressing an opinion, however I do take your point.

As for originality: I realise panning a ref is not original. I just find it ironical that NZRU voted Bryce top ref.
But that's just my opinion.

 

[LittleGuy]

No problem. I only wish I had a similar open and shut argument for whenever I run into one of those "Kennedy/Grassy Knoll/Second Gunman" nutjobs!

The 9/11 "Inside Job" Douchebags are the worst of the bunch just see their comments on this youtube video

 

[smartcooky]

The 9/11 "Inside Job" Douchebags are the worst of the bunch just see their comments on this youtube video

Yeah, but everyone knows 9/11 was an inside job.

It was a Jewish-FBI-CIA-NSA-Arab League-Mi5-Mi6-SIS-KAOS-Fundamantalist Christian Conspiracy!!!

 

[TRF_heineken]

Geez, when I posted something similar last year everyone was up in arms sending me "hate private messages" and so on, my my, how 2 months can change a bunch of things.

I'll be one of the first SA guys to admit that emotion was one of the main attributes when the hatred of Bryce Lawrence was a big talking point. now I can't speak for my fellow saffas, but I'm now over it, in fact I'm over a bunch of things which bothered me last year. It's 2012, a new beginning... Friday we will all jump for joy when Heyneke Meyer will be officially announced as the new Bok Coach. That joy will be multiplied by the fact that PDV won't be the bok coach anymore. then the Warm-up matches start and the the long awesome rugby season officially starts!!

Bryce is not a priority at all, and I wish him the best of luck with his future endeavours, but can't help to send him a warning, that if he Fu**s-up another SA game, there will be an even bigger outcry, and then it will be strike 3...

 

[Seaton]

Yeah, but everyone knows 9/11 was an inside job.

It was a Jewish-FBI-CIA-NSA-Arab League-Mi5-Mi6-SIS-KAOS-Fundamantalist Christian Conspiracy!!!

What about the corporations mannnn???

Back to the moon landings, by any chance do you know when all the reflectors were installed? I thought the whole conspiracy about the moon landings being fake, was that it was the first one that was faked, so as not to 'disappoint' the nation by not getting there by the end of the 60s? As opposed to not travelling there at all?

 

[TNT88]

To debunk that claim I suppose you'd just have to find a laser experiment performed between the 1969 landing and the next one. ie: http://www.sciencemag.org/content/166/3901/99.short

Also, you could point out that future expeditions landed in different spots on the moon.

 

[smartcooky]

What about the corporations mannnn???

Back to the moon landings, by any chance do you know when all the reflectors were installed? I thought the whole conspiracy about the moon landings being fake, was that it was the first one that was faked, so as not to 'disappoint' the nation by not getting there by the end of the 60s? As opposed to not travelling there at all?

Apollo 11 was the first one, and Aldrin was responsible for setting up the first laser reflector.

The reflector is still functioning today, over 40 years later, reflecting LLR signals from observatories all over the globe. It is still in precise alignment too, incidating that it hasn't moved at all, so, no moonquakes; confirmation of another theory; that the moon really is a dead planet... no tectonic or geoglogical activity of any kind.

Look the Moon landings were not faked. If they were there would have been information leaked to the press. There were over 750,000 people involved over 15 years, from over 40 different countries. There is no way that faked moon landings could have been kept secret; someone would surely have talked. Returning radio and television signals from the Apollo landers were received all over the world, including by the Soviets.

FFS, Nixon and his aides couldn't keep Woodward and Bernstein from finding out about an office break-in and a couple of audio tapes, how could they have expected to conceal something of this magnitide?

 

[Feicarsinn]

There's a far more simple proof that the moon landings weren't faked. The Russians would have bloody told us straight away! They definitely had the technology to be monitoring whatever the US was us to in space so if anything dodge had been happening you can bet that the Soviets would have been all over it.

 

[BRSTLDRGN]

Hold up, what does Bryce have to do with the Moon?

 

[TRF_heineken]

Hold up, what does Bryce have to do with the Moon?

Both of them isn't a star...

 

[LittleGuy]

Both of them isn't a star...

Gold!!!!

 

[Pierce Brosnan Rugby]

Bryce Lawrance is The Best Of all the time! SECOND BEST Alain Rolland,

 

[TNT88]

Hold up, what does Bryce have to do with the Moon?

Both can't see Pocock's hands in the ruck in broad daylight