Exactly my point. I stayed in Hatfield, and in Centurion. As well as in Waterkloof. Hated all of them. Although Waterkloof has some really nice views. As far as the "I knew you were going to cry again" comment goes, grow up.
Lastly, Everywhere in South Africa is pretty ****. It's just a question of how far up the **** scale it is. The places are fantastic, and we have by far the best climate on the entire planet, as well as some of the most beautiful scenery. It's the people that are the problem. Urban blight annihilated this country. Sad, but true, and i don't hate PTA that much, i have just had really bad experiences there.
I was mugged twice, and some ******* broke into my girlfriends flat and shot her roommate twice. She survived, but is now unable to conceive. She is only 21. My girlfriend was also traumatized for months. She is still paranoid today, almost 3 years later. It wasn't just the crime. I'm a rugby fan, and games i watch at Loftus, i usually watch as a neutral spectator. So regardless of what happens, i clap at good play from the Bulls and whoever they play against. Now, if some Piet van Zyl sees me, he instantly wants to "moer" me with his biltong and horned mining hat.
Hatfield is another thing. It's a great place to hang out, provided you don't make eye contact with any of the hostiles. They tend to think that if you look at them you are instantly ready for a fight. Retarded. I cannot even count how many times i have had to defend myself there because some freakishly large Afrikaner wants to pork my girlfriend while i am there. I just got to a place where i said to her, let's just get the hell out of this crap place, and away from these people. So we moved to Johannesburg, and are happier than ever.
So you see, my saying the place sucks, is at least warranted. The one thing Pretoria does have, which i love, is the best Schoolboy rivalries in the country. Pretoria Boys High, Affies and Waterkloof... Awesome...
EDIT: All you Lions fans better come visit! I have a spare room in our flat, so, anyone lookin for some free accommodation, i would be happy to help!