Entitled and righteous? Says the one acting like your bid is beyond reproach because you've waited long enough.
My comments are directly addressing the crime rate issue.
My point was we've been hunting the cup for a good while now, not that deserve it purely based on not hosting it more recently then the other two, but that we've been preparing for a considerably long time and therefore have a calculated and refined bid that's more than adequate imo. That Ireland and France are hyper focused on our crime rate like it's the main factor governing who will receive the tournament and they're seemingly trying to use it to disregard the many positives we have in our bid.
You'll also notice that I made that point from MY perspective not my countries, it's my opinion not a reason I think we should host, I want to experience the RWC and think it's been plenty long enough since we last hosted.
You seem keen to focus on this statement rather than address the fact that we have a well weighted bid. I stated the reasons I think we should host the cup, and "We are first in line because we haven't hosted it as recently." was not one of them.
It's not about entitlement, it's about fairly questioning a new report method that isn't nearly as transparent to the unions and public as was promised.
Your opinion and that's fair enough. I see both unions publicly disregarding the positive aspects of our bid by focusing specifically on our crime rate, they feel they should've scored much higher like it was the only consideration or criteria. It seems to me that both unions think they're entitled to better evaluations because of this. I'm emotional because instead of raising a huge stink about why they should've scored higher they could've stated their facts and approached WR through more appropriate channels but instead decided to get political.
Stop setting up strawmen points that literally no one made like "Africa is a crime ridden hellhole and our countries are the embodiment of serenity" for yourself to knock down and address the polite and fairly reasoned points we actually made if you want a reasonable discussion.
Scathing remarks aside, I was obviously using hyperbole to demonstrate the fact that I think the crime rate issue is being overblown into something more than it is. I apologise for being impolite but please take some time to look again at this thread and the statements made by the unions, scribes and countries and see for yourself the numerous comments regarding the crime rate, the comparative safety of the countries and the snide remarks about how SA is not nearly as safe as Ireland. We know it's true, but we also know that SA has the proven capability to host a safe tournament. There are numerous instances now of quotes and statistics of rape, murder, theft being thrown around and discourse is becoming increasingly frenzied.
I simply don't think that these countries should be making these statements unchecked and that the bids should simply speak for themselves.
I completely understand why you have taken such umbrage to my comments and admit I was quick to post unguarded and perhaps misinformed sentiments but I implore you try to understand why the saffas are feeling attacked by the other two countries. The European countries think it's unfair we came out on top, and we think it's unfair that they're attempting to muddy our bid by singling out one aspect of it.
Serously though, ultimately the Tournaments interest should be the priority, I want a great RWC just like everyone else and each bid has it's own pros and cons, the voting will happen no matter the objections to the evaluation process, just seems that there are a lot of political cheap shots being landed on all sides which is bringing the whole process unnecessarily into disrepute.
It might not be the way you see it but that's how I do. Perhaps my country is not as squeaky clean and our bid not as refined as I'm making it out to be but I don't think your countries actions are as defensible as you and others are making them out to be either but I appreciate my opinions being challenged, so thanks for that
