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Yup you'll regularly see Venison on a menu here even sold in supermarkets but Rabbit far less so. I think I've seen Pheasant and Ostrich on a menu far more than rabbit.
 
Tigs Man said:
Actually in rural Britain it is TBH.

I have eaten Rabbit multiple times, esp after a shoot.

Scotland as well it isn't uncommon.

(although again prob more of a rural thing)
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The esp after a shoot bit is key there. People who hunt rabbits clearly eat rabbit meat, but I've never known of anyone regularly buying rabbit neat from the supermarket. The majority of people who eat it will have caught it themselves.
 
ncurd said:
Yup you'll regularly see Venison on a menu here even sold in supermarkets but Rabbit far less so. I think I've seen Pheasant and Ostrich on a menu far more than rabbit.
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What places do you go that Ostrich is on the menu.

If a place serves Pheasant it will generally sell Rabbit.

It really isn't that uncommon.

TobyBeastTeague said:
The esp after a shoot bit is key there. People who hunt rabbits clearly eat rabbit meat, but I've never known of anyone regularly buying rabbit neat from the supermarket. The majority of people who eat it will have caught it themselves.
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Yeh i agree with that.

although that is mainly because the price per lbs will be fairly high TBH.
 
Tigs Man said:
Actually in rural Britain it is TBH.

I have eaten Rabbit multiple times, esp after a shoot.

Scotland as well it isn't uncommon.

(although again prob more of a rural thing)
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I think it maybe more regional then. I did less the shooty thing (as in I've never done it) but rural pubs and restaurants in Somerset I've barely seen it.
 
cause in the states eating rabbit only happens in two situations, rednecks and extremely high cuisine


i'm still of the view that this is a stupid team building exercise, i don't really care about the morals of it
 
Tigs Man said:
What places do you go that Ostrich is on the menu.
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Oh a fewhile places I've has it at more than one. But one of regular haunts when I was growing use to specialise in odder meats (ate Kangaroo and Crocodile there too).
 
suppose in the states Deer is the main hunting target.

And Rabbit are prob viewed the same as squirrels.

also American doesn't tend to have the same rural communities as Europe, IMO.
 
Tigs Man said:
suppose in the states Deer is the main hunting target.

And Rabbit are prob viewed the same as squirrels.

also American doesn't tend to have the same rural communities as Europe, IMO.
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but no one eats squirrel, and we have plenty of rural communities

and the rural people eat squirrels i guess sometimes... idk i'm so culturally removed from them
 
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themole25 said:
but no one eats squirrel, and we have plenty of rural communities
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and didn't you just say no one eats rabbits basically?

And i didn't say USA didn't have any rural communities i said there are different to European rural communities.


Rabbits and Pigeons are generally something i find on the pubs menus round where i live.

ncurd said:
yeah but yours are full of in bread rednecks whereas are inbred toffs
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although we have Gloucestershire which is a weird mix of the 2.
 
Tigs Man said:
and didn't you just say no one eats rabbits basically?

And i didn't say USA didn't have any rural communities i said there are different to European rural communities.


Rabbits and Pigeons are generally something i find on the pubs menus round where i live.



although we have Gloucestershire which is a weird mix of the 2.
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but you said that rabbits were viewed as squirrels, which surprised me that rabbits are eaten in britain when they are considered something for hicks in the states
 
themole25 said:
but you said that rabbits were viewed as squirrels, which surprised me that rabbits are eaten in britain when they are considered something for hicks in the states
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Rabbits are something for hicks in GB too - hence Tigs sees them on menus and no-one much else does.

Being Westcountry rural all my life; I think I've seen rabbit on a menu about 2-3 times in my life; and never in a shop; pigeon about the same, but at much posher places.

Rabbit is something you catch yourself if you want to eat it (back in the day; we did do this at scout camp); but really not something you eat out.
I'd also suggest that there's a generational thing with Rabbit; the rationing-era people (greatest generation through baby boomers) considering it much more normal than subsequent (Gen-X through millenials).
 
Which Tyler said:
Rabbits are something for hicks in GB too - hence Tigs sees them on menus and no-one much else does.

Being Westcountry rural all my life; I think I've seen rabbit on a menu about 2-3 times in my life; and never in a shop; pigeon about the same, but at much posher places.

Rabbit is something you catch yourself if you want to eat it (back in the day; we did do this at scout camp); but really not something you eat out.
I'd also suggest that there's a generational thing with Rabbit; the rationing-era people (greatest generation through baby boomers) considering it much more normal than subsequent (Gen-X through millenials).
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I go to proper rural pubs not these trendy pubs 30 + something wanna hipster go to where they only just discovered Real ale.

Meh West country are a bunch of rubes who will pay £5 extra for some trendy crap esp those bath lot.

Let's put it this way i bet more people in the west country have Mayo on their chips than Gravy or curry sauce.

Also Rabbit is quite popular in France and Italy i believe (Again when i went to south of France it was quite popular it seems).

Mind which Tyler will prob get a better idea of that. (i think)
 
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Rabbit's fairly commonly eaten.

It's not Beef... but it's not exactly Unicorn either.
 
Bah I've drinking ale in West Country for 13 years it's a new thing in cities.
 
Do you seriously think that the situation involved Vern Cotter saying to his players "anyone who doesn't kill these rabbits is going home".
That clearly wasn't what happened... what do you think would happen if a player had not been selected or, in extremis, kicked out of the squad?
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No, but I think that it can cause an argument or a breakdown in the player-coach relationship. If a player questions the coaches methods, the coach may take it personally. Or the player may take it personally that they were asked to begin with. (Personally, I would be fairly peed if I was asked to do it after saying no the first time. Boundaries.) It's the kind of thing that can snowball.

ratsapprentice said:
By that definition they are also coerced into waking up early and training really hard in pre-season.

Even worse, they might actually lose their job over it.
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It comes down to reasonable expectations. There is a reasonable expectation that a player will wake early and train hard when they choose to play rugby. The same cannot be said of killing rabbits. What constitutes a reasonable or unreasonable expectation is somewhat fluid dependent on the job, and there may be some grey areas, but I don't believe this to be one of them.

I believe a coach can ask the players to kill rabbits, but not insist or in any way pressure them into doing so. I believe this to be true for most jobs (aside from e.g. pest control).
 
Tigs Man said:
I go to proper rural pubs not these trendy pubs 30 + something wanna hipster go to where they only just discovered Real ale.

Meh West country are a bunch of rubes who will pay £5 extra for some trendy crap esp those bath lot.

Let's put it this way i bet more people in the west country have Mayo on their chips than Gravy or curry sauce.

Also Rabbit is quite popular in France and Italy i believe (Again when i went to south of France it was quite popular it seems).

Mind which Tyler will prob get a better idea of that. (i think)
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Depends where you mean by rural - I'm a Bath fan, but not from Bath; my heritage is Wiltshire (Salisbury-Marlborough), Dorset (Ringwood; studying Bournemouth), Devon (S Molton-Barnstaple) and Gloucestershire (Tewkesbury). Chips are most likely to be S&V or ketchup; and ale is likely home-brewed or local (though usually cider - made with apples and toe-nails; not ethanol and cough-sweets).
I can't recall ever going to a trendy-pub outside of Bath or London. Wetherspoons is about as "trendy" as I get; and I can't think of the last time I went anywhere else without a few dogs (as in mans-best-friend; not as in Forest-of-Dean) at the bar.

I would certainly agree that Rabbit is more popular in France (semi-rural central); to the point that I have seen it in Les Bouchers as well as being served it.
 
Which Tyler said:
Depends where you mean by rural - I'm a Bath fan, but not from Bath; my heritage is Wiltshire (Salisbury-Marlborough), Dorset (Ringwood; studying Bournemouth), Devon (S Molton-Barnstaple) and Gloucestershire (Tewkesbury). Chips are most likely to be S&V or ketchup; and ale is likely home-brewed or local (though usually cider - made with apples and toe-nails; not ethanol and cough-sweets).
I can't recall ever going to a trendy-pub outside of Bath or London. Wetherspoons is about as "trendy" as I get; and I can't think of the last time I went anywhere else without a few dogs (as in mans-best-friend; not as in Forest-of-Dean) at the bar.

I would certainly agree that Rabbit is more popular in France (semi-rural central); to the point that I have seen it in Les Bouchers as well as being served it.
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I was just having a bit of "Banter" with you.

Although Ketchup and Chips Dear God, i heard the rumours but didn't think they where true.

thought so (RE france) but knew you would have a better idea on that.

Mind saying that i love Cider esp strongbow..........

@themole25 is it true that Cider in the states is more of like a fruit drink than a proper alcoholic drink?
 
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You can actually get decent American ales....not tried the cider though but I don't drink cider.
 

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