USA vs All Blacks - 01/11

[Jaguares]

Bit rough...he's a guy wants to try his luck in rugby, thought you'd be all for that considering your comments Jarrad Hayne is a piece of sh*t for joining the NFL instead of rugby..

Sorry, I used the wrong word, he isn't a piece of sh*t. He isn't an international level player, just that. And about Jarryd Hayne, yes, he's wasting his time in USA, he should be training for his first Super Rugby season and then he should play the WC :%#%#:

 

[nickdnz]

Who is the best tackler at the NZ backline? Nonu? SBW? Fekitoa? Cory Jane? Nooooooooooo, the best tackler is Conrad Smith and he isn't the team's fastest player, neither is the strongest and heaviest player at NZ backline. He's smart, he's disciplined and above all, he has a HUGE technique. To be the best tackler you shouldn't be the best athlete, the technique is the most important thing. Lomu was bigger and faster than Conrad, but his defense was always ****. Robbie Fruean is stronger than Conrad, but his defense sucks. Look at Australia, Toomua is one of their best tacklers and he isn't the fastest or the strongest player. The technique is the most important thing, and good technique need thousands of hours of training.

That 'not the biggest' but 'huge technique' speech seems pretty well rehearsed . Do the ladies ever buy it?

 

[Jaguares]

That 'not the biggest' but 'huge technique' speech seems pretty well rehearsed . Do the ladies ever buy it?

Are u making fun of my English? Ok, great technique. Do u like it?

 

[sharkfan]

The All Blacks must do the Kapo o' Pango with the throat slitting gesture at the end. That will get the attention of the locals watching the game!

 

[Jaguares]

Pretty sure there are only a handful of countries where even the most famous rugby players in the world would be recognised.

Well, rugby players are famous in: Europe, Latin America, Oceanic, the south of Africa and Japan...

 

[TRF_Olyy]

The All Blacks must do the Kapo o' Pango with the throat slitting gesture at the end. That will get the attention of the locals watching the game!

Don't they reserve that for the big big games, not the walkovers?

Ka Mate is far more known, even in America, so it'd make more sense to do that, for the benefit of the fans at least.

 

[psychic duck]

Well, rugby players are famous in: Europe, Latin America, Oceanic, the south of Africa and Japan...

There's like 50 countries in Europe, rugby players can get a decent amount in about 5. Likewise in about 2 of about 20 Latin American countries, 1 of about 15 Southern African countries, and rugby players aren't particularly famous in Japan either. So that's only a small handful of nations.

 

[nickdnz]

Agree with Olyy that Ka Mate would be the better choice from a marketing and occasion perspective. It's a better haka in my opinion anyway (although there are plenty of Maori who still disagree with it being used to represent all Maori). If I was to see a haka live every 30 or so years, I'd rather see the iconic Ka Mate.

 

[ratsapprentice]

From a marketing POV they should probably fly Piri or Tana over to lead it - Messam is a bit... flat, IMO.

Lol - can't believe I'm talking about theatrical production up in this ****.

 

[thechosenfamily]

The Haka is not completely alien to the American public anyway there were a few College American Football teams doing various home spun versions for a few years and there was a lot of coverage on US tv this year when the New Zealand basketball (still laugh at the nickname "The Tall Blacks") did a Haka before their recent game against Team USA.



I don't think Kapo o' Pango is a good idea because of the throat slit, the USA are a bit sensitive to this sort of thing
Ka Mate I think is the most recognised and best version IMHO

 

[big ginger 8]

Apparently only three American journalists turned up to the press conference. I know it's sold out but how much is it impacting a new audience?

 

[sharkfan]

The Haka is not completely alien to the American public anyway there were a few College American Football teams doing various home spun versions for a few years and there was a lot of coverage on US tv this year when the New Zealand basketball (still laugh at the nickname "The Tall Blacks") did a Haka before their recent game against Team USA.



I don't think Kapo o' Pango is a good idea because of the throat slit, the USA are a bit sensitive to this sort of thing
Ka Mate I think is the most recognised and best version IMHO

Yes, the Ka Mate is the more famous one and the Kapo O Pango is for big crunch games. Besides I don't think the All Blacks use the throat slitting gesture anymore.

 

[The Jones Boy]

The Haka is not completely alien to the American public anyway there were a few College American Football teams doing various home spun versions for a few years and there was a lot of coverage on US tv this year when the New Zealand basketball (still laugh at the nickname "The Tall Blacks")

Yeah Kiwis have been doing that for a while now.
The Kiwi soccer team is called the All Whites
The cricket team is called the Black caps, the netball team the Black ferns, the sheila rugby team the Girl Blacks, the hockey team the Black sticks...
Oddly the rugby league team is called simply, The Kiwi's.

 

[Jaguares]

There's like 50 countries in Europe, rugby players can get a decent amount in about 5. Likewise in about 2 of about 20 Latin American countries, 1 of about 15 Southern African countries, and rugby players aren't particularly famous in Japan either. So that's only a small handful of nations.

Dear Duck, you're always so positive, I assure you that rugby players are famous in countries you can't even imagine. In 2012 I went to see ABs in Buenos Aires, was a beneficial event from Adidas. They were: Dan Carter, Ma'a Nonu, Aaron Smith, Sam Whitelock, Cory Jane and Andrew Hore and I can assure you that saw hundreds of fans from different Latin American countries like Colombians, Venezuelans, Chileans, Brazilians, Paraguayans, etc.

Brazil and Colombia right now have more than 10,000 Registered rugby players per country.

This is the website of the Brazilian rugby:

http://www.brasilrugby.com.br/

This is the website of the Colombian rugby:

http://fecorugby.co/FCR/

I assure you that in many non-traditional rugby countries, rugby players are very famous, especially the ABs. They can easily get 500 people at the airport if they go to Colombia, the sport has grown in that country.

 

[sharkfan]

American rugby fans are trying out the Haka, with the winner of the best performing Haka set to win rugby tickets to next years World Cup, great video lol!
http://tvnz.co.nz/rugby-news/funny-video-americans-give-all-blacks-haka-their-best-shot-6117646

 

[dasNdanger]

The match is airing on one of the major networks here - NBC. That's good because it means the majority of the country will have access to it (unlike the premium sports channels that you need to pay extra for in order to watch rugby). The biggest problem in the US is that sportscasters on local - and sometimes even national - news programs just do not cover rugby. Sometimes it's because the games air on different networks. For instance, when the Maori ABs played the Eagles outside of Philadelphia, the local news I watch (ABC - the most watched in the Philly area) didn't even bother to cover it because the game was supported by the NBC network. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Hopefully this game will get enough attention that they'll be forced to acknowledge it this time around.


das

 

[thechosenfamily]

The match is airing on one of the major networks here - NBC. That's good because it means the majority of the country will have access to it (unlike the premium sports channels that you need to pay extra for in order to watch rugby). The biggest problem in the US is that sportscasters on local - and sometimes even national - news programs just do not cover rugby. Sometimes it's because the games air on different networks. For instance, when the Maori ABs played the Eagles outside of Philadelphia, the local news I watch (ABC - the most watched in the Philly area) didn't even bother to cover it because the game was supported by the NBC network. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Hopefully this game will get enough attention that they'll be forced to acknowledge it this time around.


das

It should be noted that this from a timing element could not have come at a worse time for press coverage.

The baseball world series is still going on, The NFL, college football and MLS seasons are in full swing, Ice hockey has just started their new season and the NBA is is pre-season.

All top American sports and only so many reporters and prime time minutes.

 

[psychic duck]

Dear Duck, you're always so positive, I assure you that rugby players are famous in countries you can't even imagine. In 2012 I went to see ABs in Buenos Aires, was a beneficial event from Adidas. They were: Dan Carter, Ma'a Nonu, Aaron Smith, Sam Whitelock, Cory Jane and Andrew Hore and I can assure you that saw hundreds of fans from different Latin American countries like Colombians, Venezuelans, Chileans, Brazilians, Paraguayans, etc.

Brazil and Colombia right now have more than 10,000 Registered rugby players per country.

This is the website of the Brazilian rugby:

http://www.brasilrugby.com.br/

This is the website of the Colombian rugby:

http://fecorugby.co/FCR/

I assure you that in many non-traditional rugby countries, rugby players are very famous, especially the ABs. They can easily get 500 people at the airport if they go to Colombia, the sport has grown in that country.

You're not fooling anybody, rugby players are not 'very famous' in a country like Japan let alone Colombia.

 

[Jaguares]

You're not fooling anybody, rugby players are not 'very famous' in a country like Japan let alone Colombia.

I can assure you that the ABs are famous in Latin America, especially players like: Dan Carter, Ma'a Nonu, Sonny Bill Williams and Richie McCaw.

SBW is ridiculously famous for the little time he has played in Union, just for being a big and tough guy.

People don't know the hard work of players like Brodie Retallick, Kieran Read or Jerome Kaino, that are most important for the team.

They just say: "Oh Sonny Bill is a tough guy", "Oh Sonny Bill is too big", "Oh Sonny Bill is a professional boxer", "Oh Sonny Bill is too hot". He's the new Lomu if we talk about rugby marketing

 

[goodNumber10]

You're not fooling anybody, rugby players are not 'very famous' in a country like Japan let alone Colombia.

In this day and age of Youtube and companies like Adidas marketing i reckon more people than we expect are exposed to Rugby's stars - especially guys like Williams etc...

Fame is all relative isn't it, and I'm pretty sure that outside of the rugby community they are not household names though. I'm sure I've read on a number of occasions that people like Dan Carter et al appreciate being in the UK and the likes as they dont' get recognised as much as they do back in New Zealand.

slightly off topic, but talking of colombia: http://www.premiershiprugby.com/news/33574.php