The Ukraine War thread

[McTallshort]

Yeah get it not everyone likes Churchill but this did make me laugh

 

[Saintjay]

Someone might know the answer to this as I'm not a RAF fly-boy.

Aren't the F-35's pretty reliant on US tech support and updates for some nations dependant on service level agreement.

Did hear that the US threatend to pull F-35 tech support on one country thus making them useless bricks.

On intelligence the UK was stupid enough to pass on a lot of it's assets (sources) to the CIA becoming reliant on information sharing. Hindsight being a wonderful thing.

 

[ncurd]

It really is hindsight though i don't think it's fair for anyone to predict the USA becoming such a unreliable partner so rapidly. Trumps an unpredictable ass but he wasn't anywhere near this bad in 1.0 form.

 

[McTallshort]

Someone might know the answer to this as I'm not a RAF fly-boy.

Aren't the F-35's pretty reliant on US tech support and updates for some nations dependant on service level agreement.

Did hear that the US threatend to pull F-35 tech support on one country thus making them useless bricks.

On intelligence the UK was stupid enough to pass on a lot of it's assets (sources) to the CIA becoming reliant on information sharing. Hindsight being a wonderful thing.

Lots of stuff on the F-35 is manufactured in the UK and in other countries. It wouldn't be as simple as switching it off.

 

[mikebrownsauce1512]

Can Someone give me the low down on the Trump, Vance and Zelenskyy conference. Been busy haven't really had chance to see what has happened.

 

[McTallshort]

Can Someone give me the low down on the Trump, Vance and Zelenskyy conference. Been busy haven't really had chance to see what has happened.

Trump and Vance were a pair of *****, Rubio looked like he didn't want to be there and Zelensky stood his ground as best as he could.

 

[Which Tyler]

Can Someone give me the low down on the Trump, Vance and Zelenskyy conference. Been busy haven't really had chance to see what has happened.

Essentially...
Marjorie Taylor-Green's boyfriend asked a stupid question, which Zelenskyy refused to get worked up about.
Vance then turned it into an attack on Zelenskyy, despite things not going to script. The attack was that Zelenskyy hadn't been thankful enough to Trump for... selling Ukraine out to Russia.
After a minute or two Trump woke up and poured petrol onto the fire. Zelenskyy had the gall to point out that Putin keeps breaking signed treaties, and that he didn't trust him to keep his word this time, hence Zelenskyy wanting meaningful security guarantees. Trump got annoyed, because Putin respects Trump, and that's all the guarantee that's needed.

Then Trump kicked Zelenskyy out of the white house for refusing to hand over his lunch money - and said that he could come back when he was willing to say nice things about Putin.

If you want much more than that, the main exchange was only about 7 minutes (and posted on here) with plenty of others analysing things in various levels of detail.

Rubio looked like he didn't want to be there.

Oh yeah, forgot that bit - Rubio tried to disappear into the sofa like Homer Simpson into the hedge - given that he was sharing a sofa with Vance, that might not have been the best hiding place.

 

[Reiser99]

The Nobel Peace Prize winner is chosen by the Norwegian Nobel Committee, which consists of five members appointed by the Norwegian parliament.

He's sold out on Ukraine & Europe and so doesn't have a hope in hell. His best hope is for Russia or Israel to start their own mickey mouse peace prize.

Trump the next recipient of the Gold Star.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hero_of_the_Russian_Federation%23:~:text%3Dof%2520the%2520award.-,Description,dihedral%2520rays%2520on%2520the%2520obverse.&ved=2ahUKEwihkcrA2PCLAxWV1gIHHcfWATwQFnoECBwQBQ&usg=AOvVaw1fGIo0oJoCDcKqAphcA-aI

Though I'm sure Putin could get away with a gold sticker.

 

[Saintjay]

Forgets how an A10 destroyed a warrior killing 9 members of the Royal Regiiment of Fusiliers in Gulf War 1.

Or the Royal Anglians killed by an F15 in 2007. The list goes on.

In fact he should be saying "Thank You" and doing it in a suit and tie the pr!ck.

JD Vance denies insulting British troops over 'random country' jibe

Senior politicians interpret JD Vance's dismissal of peacekeeping troops as a dig at the UK and France - but the US vice president insists he was not referring to these two allies.

news.sky.com

 

[Yulia]

Shmyhal says that there were no changes, they received all the aid as of yesterday's evening,and they don't have any information that the US aid will be stopped.

 

[AlRums]

Vice President JD Vance reveals where things 'broke apart' during Trump-Zelenskyy blowup at the White House

Vice President JD Vance shares how things unfolded in the Oval Office during a tense exchange between President Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy on 'Hannity.'

www.foxnews.com

 

[Which Tyler]

Vance does realise that we can all see the video for ourselves yeah?
Gaslighting the entire globe, who can all see what actually happened is u likely to end well.

 

[Reiser99]

Vance does realise that we can all see the video for ourselves yeah?
Gaslighting the entire globe, who can all see what actually happened is u likely to end well.

But this is the world we live in. Political leaders will directly lie despite the fact there is a live video contradicting them and people will still believe them.

 

[AlRums]

But this is the world we live in. Political leaders will directly lie despite the fact there is a live video contradicting them and people will still believe them.

Strumpet is a master at that

 

[AlRums]

Shmyhal says that there were no changes, they received all the aid as of yesterday's evening,and they don't have any information that the US aid will be stopped.

He only stopped it last night and Ukraine is hours behind Washington. Assuming it doesn't affect anything already en route it will be a few days before it kicks in.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Europe really needs to properly beef up their militaries now and, whilst at it, let's see if we can attract the best and brightest from the USA. Let's face it, they don't tend to be right leaning. The USA relies heavily on being able to suck in talent from all round the world. Europe should try to snatch that mantle from them.

 

[AlRums]

In thinking this is not about Ukraine but Zelensky.

Strumpet still has a grudge against him after his first impeachment 5 years ago

Now it's all about regime change, suddenly the republicans and the white house are all calling for Zelensky's resignation.

Strumpet wants someone more compliant in charge who will grovel and give him everything he demands, fu.ck the consequences.

 

[McTallshort]

In thinking this is not about Ukraine but Zelensky.

Strumpet still has a grudge against him after his first impeachment 5 years ago

Now it's all about regime change, suddenly the republicans and the white house are all calling for Zelensky's resignation.

Strumpet wants someone more compliant in charge who will grovel and give him everything he demands, fu.ck the consequences.

Yeah Putin wants that to

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Europe really needs to properly beef up their militaries now and, whilst at it, let's see if we can attract the best and brightest from the USA. Let's face it, they don't tend to be right leaning. The USA relies heavily on being able to suck in talent from all round the world. Europe should try to snatch that mantle from them.

Sadly, the change in our tax rules might see a trickle, if any new talent from over the pond.