The Review Thread of RWC 2011

[dakkadakka]

People read to much into reviews to validate their own opinion, it won't be the first time I have read negative reviews about a game yet personally I have enjoyed it.

Roll on Friday finally a rugby game I don't have to buy a retro console or program a game pad to actually play it.

 

[11Openside]

feels like people are just going overboard with the hating

Haters gona hate lol
At the end of the day if it floats your boat then thats all that matters folks

 

[LittleGuy]

The second review at turbo seemed to be more nuanced, even though the rating was only a point higher a 6/10. The strengths and weaknesses were both outlined, and the reviewer dealt with more issues.

I'm actually surpised the IGN-Aus, reviewer gave the game a 5/10. From the text it seemed like he actually felt worse about it.

 

[Leinster+]

To be honest I could give a Rat's A$$ about the review. I live in a back water of rugby, (although it is God's Country) so I will be buying the game off PSN when it is availible in NA. As far as I can tell none of those complaining about the RWC, have actually played RC (at least those on this form). I am interested in a an unbaised comparision of the two, specifically game play.....

Got to play rc. Wallabies v nz. Pure class.

 

[Thingimubob]

Haters gona hate lol
At the end of the day if it floats your boat then thats all that matters folks

Haters gonna hate, Potatoes gonna Potate
One of my favourite quotes by Olyy tbf :lol:

 

[gingergenius]

For some, never. There's a mad hate on for RWC2011 right now.

There's a very clear explanation for that.

1. People have waited 4 years for another rugby game. They are therefore eagerly anticipating a new one.

2. Consumers naturally expect an improvement in their product as later versions are released. Example, PS3 is better than PS2.

3. This site has become the official forum for the game, and many people were genuinely excited that it would be an opportunity to a) suggest features that need improving, and b) suggest new ones. A chance for the HB staff to tailor their game to something approaching what the consumer wants.

So, the conclusions based on the demo, game statistics, and reviews from respected websites:

- the gameplay is an improvement on Rugby 08, but not by much, and shares many of its flaws.
- the licensing for a so-called 'Official game of the Rugby World Cup', is frankly, embarrassing. To not have real players (or even S.Uiha'tonga & A.Lagitui etc.) for some teams is really poor.
- there are even less features than Rugby 08, not more. Even less as in a cutback of almost 50 teams.
- many people on the forums called for customisable features, and these have only been half answered.

That's not telling anyone what to think. It's not HB-bashing for the sake of it. It is a consumer analysing a product and deciding it is not up to scratch, on the basis of the points listed above, all of which are undeniable.

If you can read the above and tell me that this is not a well-constructed opinion, and is simply 'mad hate', then go for it.

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My interpretation is that I could say 'thanks HB, at least there's a rugby game on the market', or I could say 'no thanks, you got us all excited only to come up with this mediocre effort which is an improvement on your last (unfinished) effort only in the realm of graphics and arguably gameplay, and my £40 is better spent on something I won't have grown bored of by the time the World Cup's over'.

What I am highly grateful for is the fact that I can say 'no thanks' and buy another rugby game that looks like the developers have put their consumers' interests before the desire to rush out a skeleton of a rugby game and make a quick buck from the fever surrounding the World Cup.

 

[abczyx]

^ that is put much better than mine.

 

[Hatch87]

What I am highly grateful for is the fact that I can say 'no thanks' and buy another rugby game that looks like the developers have put their consumers' interests before the desire to rush out a skeleton of a rugby game and make a quick buck from the fever surrounding the World Cup.

I think thats slightly unfair. There is one massive difference between the two. Sidhe did not fund any of their game, HES paid out of the licences and told Sidhe what they have and how much they can spend on developing now go do something with it. HB had to spend their own money and use their own resources and time to get the licences which they acquired and at the same time try and get a new publisher.


That is a massive risk for a developer to take. If anyone is cashing it its HES moving from Rugby League and onto the PS360 during a world cup year. Not been on the forum but I would imagine their rugby league fans are fuming that their still stuck with games only being released on the Wii.

 

[dakkadakka]

That is a massive risk for a developer to take. If anyone is cashing it its HES moving from Rugby League and onto the PS360 during a world cup year. Not been on the forum but I would imagine their rugby league fans are fuming that their still stuck with games only being released on the Wii.

Hmmm the Sidhe/HES license agenda is bubbling up again, this time it sounds like you are accusing HES of sabotage. This is Sidhe's first rugby game, granted they have took things on board from Big Ant, I think the league fans would count this as a blessing, I can only go off the feedback of course, having not played them, they are available on the 360/PS3 no need to bring the innocent dustbox into this.

 

[Angry Panda]

I think thats slightly unfair. There is one massive difference between the two. Sidhe did not fund any of their game, HES paid out of the licences and told Sidhe what they have and how much they can spend on developing now go do something with it. HB had to spend their own money and use their own resources and time to get the licences which they acquired and at the same time try and get a new publisher.


That is a massive risk for a developer to take. If anyone is cashing it its HES moving from Rugby League and onto the PS360 during a world cup year. Not been on the forum but I would imagine their rugby league fans are fuming that their still stuck with games only being released on the Wii.

That may be so ... however a game should be judged in terms of all that it offers. Licensing is included in this. Games should not be differentiated by how much they have or haven't got to spend as the case may be. Look at the old PES series put out by Konami in the early 2000's. They had a fraction of the licenses that FIFA had but had superior sales due to the fact that they put out a product with the better gameplay. Both RWC 2011 and RC should be judged without bringing up how much of a budget each of the games had. Since I've yet to play full versions of both games, I can only reserve my judgement until I have.

 

[gingergenius]

I think thats slightly unfair. There is one massive difference between the two. Sidhe did not fund any of their game, HES paid out of the licences and told Sidhe what they have and how much they can spend on developing now go do something with it. HB had to spend their own money and use their own resources and time to get the licences which they acquired and at the same time try and get a new publisher.


That is a massive risk for a developer to take. If anyone is cashing it its HES moving from Rugby League and onto the PS360 during a world cup year. Not been on the forum but I would imagine their rugby league fans are fuming that their still stuck with games only being released on the Wii.

This is a commercial market we're talking about. You don't get points just for taking part, and you don't get a sympathy vote for 'going it alone'. The aim is to make the best game possible within a reasonable budget - if you can't find the funding, tough luck.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Hmmm the Sidhe/HES license agenda is bubbling up again, this time it sounds like you are accusing HES of sabotage.

No it doesn't

 

[Angry Panda]

This is a commercial market we're talking about. You don't get points just for taking part, and you don't get a sympathy vote for 'going it alone'. The aim is to make the best game possible within a reasonable budget - if you can't find the funding, tough luck.

Absolutely agree 100% ... You've hit the nail on the head.

 

[jovialjonny]

Bored of talking to the wall now so just once more from me...

08 -> Rwc gameplay advancements
- improved rucking control and strategy (nearest man option etc)
- pick and go
- pinching ball when opposition forwards don't show up instead of surreal wait for attackers to catch up and form ruck in 08
- chip kicks
- quicker tap grubbers that actually work at more realistic speed
- significantly harder hard mode by all accounts
- guard control for defender so you can line up tackles more realistically
- fringe defence for rucks near try line
- online play

NOW...if you think that is not sufficient gameplay improvements from a sports game from one iteration to the next, or not comparable to the level of expansion from one version of FIFA to the next then fair enough.

I don't agree and think the changes above will fundamentally improve the realism and fun of the game. Online in particular is a game changer.

Yes there are less licenses and teams, due to a combo of no EA money and sidhe getting the clubs.

In reality how many teams do you play as online in FIFA? For me - probably the top 5 teams in the game and that's about it.

So yes I'm sad clubs aren't in, but I still have as many teams as I'd use in FIFA to play with here (nz,oz,Sa,Irl,Wales,England,France)

For all of this, I am 110% buying this game.

I'm also buying rc to see how that is,and to have somewhere I can play as munster. Thus far I can say nothing comparable to the list above for rc besides online as they've not graced us with a demo so I can't wait to see how that plays and hope its as good as the rc fanboys are praying for it to be.

Thank you and good night.

 

[M Two One]

I'm surprised that was an official review by an IGN staff member. It was poorly written with some questionable material. In any case, I do agree that it will be difficult to pay such a price for a game that has so little to offer. If I can play before I buy, I would consider it.

 

[Mario]

Not been on the forum but I would imagine their rugby league fans are fuming that their still stuck with games only being released on the Wii.

HES started releasing Rugby League games on PS3 and 360 last year.

 

[Hatch87]

Hmmm the Sidhe/HES license agenda is bubbling up again, this time it sounds like you are accusing HES of sabotage. This is Sidhe's first rugby game, granted they have took things on board from Big Ant, I think the league fans would count this as a blessing, I can only go off the feedback of course, having not played them, they are available on the 360/PS3 no need to bring the innocent dustbox into this.

hmmm no its not, its their fourth I believe. Been making Rugby League games on the PC and Wii up until now. The Rugby League game on the PS360 has nothing to do with Sidhe


To the other replies, I did not mention anything about who game was better or anyone sabotaging anything . I just said that its harsh to say HB are just trying to make a quick buck on the hype of the world cup and not putting any effort into it. They have just had to spend money and time in other areas. Thats why I only quoted a specific part of gingergenius post

HES started releasing Rugby League games on PS3 and 360 last year.

My mistake, must of missed that one. The UK doesn't help itself with Rugby. Really hard to find anything about Rugby games here. I only came across this site because of someone in the Codemasters Forum, and found out about your game from here lol. CVG recently released a preview of Rugby Challenge and mentions EA's RWC lol

 

[dakkadakka]

hmmm no its not, its their fourth I believe. Been making Rugby League games on the PC and Wii up until now. The Rugby League game on the PS360 has nothing to do with Sidhe


To the other replies, I did not mention anything about who game was better or anyone sabotaging anything . I just said that its harsh to say HB are just trying to make a quick buck on the hype of the world cup and not putting any effort into it. They have just had to spend money and time in other areas. Thats why I only quoted a specific part of gingergenius post



My mistake, must of missed that one. The UK doesn't help itself with Rugby. Really hard to find anything about Rugby games here. I only came across this site because of someone in the Codemasters Forum, and found out about your game from here lol. CVG recently released a preview of Rugby Challenge and mentions EA's RWC lol

I don't know the complete history of SIDHE, I think the SIDHE guy is the best to ask, I have never accused HB or SIDHE of cashing in, THERE IS A WORLD CUP GOING ON I EXPECT A VIDEO GAME. having two is a bonus. Sounded like you are accusing SIDHE of a cash in because SIDHE have more funding and are calling this unfair based on HB's circumstances, and HB's best intentions have been spoilt as a result. A melodramatic forum user would describe this as Sabotage.

 

[joydivision1979]

I think thats slightly unfair. There is one massive difference between the two. Sidhe did not fund any of their game, HES paid out of the licences and told Sidhe what they have and how much they can spend on developing now go do something with it. HB had to spend their own money and use their own resources and time to get the licences which they acquired and at the same time try and get a new publisher.


That is a massive risk for a developer to take. If anyone is cashing it its HES moving from Rugby League and onto the PS360 during a world cup year. Not been on the forum but I would imagine their rugby league fans are fuming that their still stuck with games only being released on the Wii.

You really dont know what youre talking about buddy. Cashing in on the world cup Sidhe are not. RC is a rugby game that includes all the major tournaments geniric and official with 98 teams last time I looked. If they were they would have released before RWC came out.

I have RWC and I would rather watch you tube videos of Sidhe gameplay than play RWC... yep its that bad. When you get the game you will realise and if you dont then you are either not a rugby fan (which I doubt coz your on this forum) or someone who does not enjoy top quality vid games.

Are we supposed to feel sorry for HB????????? You make no sense.

 

[raziel_eire]

When you get the game you will realise and if you dont then you are either not a rugby fan (which I doubt coz your on this forum) or someone who does not enjoy top quality vid games.

Dude, what's with comments like this? He can still be both a fan and quality games enjoyer (is that even a real word?) AND enjoy the RWC game. That doesn't make RWC2011 a quality game in the same standards as the other current sports ***les we always make reference too, FIFA, NHL, Madden etc, but it also doesn't stop someone from enjoying it.

You've made a host of good points throughout this thread, don't tarnish it all with a swathing comment that shits on folk who may like different things.