The Improvement of Tier Two Nations - In Particular Russia

[Croket66]

Possible Russia best XV possible :

1.Carlo Maglakelidze (Imperia Penza)
2.Vladislav Korshunov (London Wasps, England)
3.Ivan Prishchepenko (Krasny Yar)
4.Kirill Kulemine (Castres Olympique, France)
5.Adam Byrnes (Melbourne Rebels, Australia)
6.Andrey Ostrikov (Sale Sharks, England)
7.Artem Fatakhov (VVA-Podmoskovye)
8.Viktor Gresev (London Wasps, England)
9.Alexander Yanyushkin (VVA-Podmoskovye)
10.Konstantin Rachkov (Carqueiranne-Hyeres, France)
11.Denis Simplikevitch (Enisey-STM)
12.Alexey Makovetsky (Krasny Yar)
13.Mikhail Babaev (VVA-Podmoskovye)
14.Vladimir Ostrouchko (Yug Krasnodar)
15.Vasily Artemiev (Northampton Saints, England)

 

[Nielsch]

I am kind of worried about the fan support for Russia. Whereas Spain attracts 5.000 - 10.000 supporters for a home match in the European Nations Cup and Georgia about 15.000 - 25.000 for that same competition, Russia draws about 100 - 200... Ouch...

 

[Croket66]

Georgia-Russia XV
no Yury Kushnarev who is now at the Melbourne Rebels?

He were at the Rebels for the pre-season only.
I've seen Rachkov and Kushnarev at the RWC, in my opinion Rachkov were really better than Kushnarev...

 

[Croket66]

I am kind of worried about the fan support for Russia. Whereas Spain attracts 5.000 - 10.000 supporters for a home match in the European Nations Cup and Georgia about 15.000 - 25.000 for that same competition, Russia draws about 100 - 200... Ouch...

It's because Russia plays his home game in Sotchi (because the weather), and in Sotchi rugby don't exist...
The real rugby place in Russia, it's in Krasnoyarsk, Siberia.
Here is a picture from the russian championship final 2011, in Krasnoyarsk between Enisey-STM and Krasny Yar

According to espnscrum, when Russia played in Krasnoyarsk, the crowd was about 15 000
http://www.espnscrum.com/scrum/rugby/match/23377.html
http://www.espnscrum.com/scrum/rugby/match/24273.html

 

[Toko_11]

well what a shock if there is no support in Sochi 80% of the population there are Georgians. Russia should consider summer league unless they already have it... if they do nvm

 

[smartcooky]

All this talk of Tier 2 teams having professional championships, and Scotland can barel afford it's two pro teams :s

Wales cannot even afford to run an "A" team, so they have their Under 20 side as the "second senior" team under iRB eligibility regulations. And they're Tier 1!!!

 

[Nielsch]

It's because Russia plays his home game in Sotchi (because the weather), and in Sotchi rugby don't exist...
The real rugby place in Russia, it's in Krasnoyarsk, Siberia.
Here is a picture from the russian championship final 2011, in Krasnoyarsk between Enisey-STM and Krasny Yar

According to espnscrum, when Russia played in Krasnoyarsk, the crowd was about 15 000
http://www.espnscrum.com/scrum/rugby/match/23377.html
http://www.espnscrum.com/scrum/rugby/match/24273.html

So why don't they move out of Sochi then? Surely Moscow would be better and attract more fans. Or move the games to Krasnoyarsk and join the Asian 5 Nations instead of the European Nations Cup.

 

[Seaton]

I am gonna hazard a guess.

If they move their games from Sotchi, at the times of year they play them there, the players might as well learn how to ice-skate, no?

 

[Nielsch]

Moscow soccer clubs have no problems playing in the European competitions which are played from September through May, kinda like the European Nations Cup. I guess you'd need a pitch with artificial heating, but otherwise I don't see any other major obstacles.

 

[snoopy snoopy dog dog]

Don't the Moscow soccer clubs play on artificial surfaces to combat the weather?

 

[Croket66]

It's in project!

Today London Wasps vs. Northampton with 3 russians!!

Wasps team to play Northampton

15 Hugo Southwell
14 Lee Robinson
13 Alex Cheesman
12 Chris Mayor
11 Richard Haughton
10 Will Robinson
9 Charlie Davies (c)

1 Tim Payne
2 Nathan Morris
3 Ben Broster
4 Heinz Koll
5 Ed O'Donoghue
6 Tinus DuPlessis
7 Matt Everard
8 Victor Gresev

Substitutes

16 Vladislav Korshunov
17 Bob Baker
18 Simon McIntyre
19 Joe Burton
20 Sam Jones
21 Joe Simpson
22 Nick Robinson
23 Charlie Ingall

Northampton Saints

15 Paul Diggin
14 Jamie Elliott
13 George Pisi
12 James Downey
11 Noah Cato
10 Stephen Myler
9 Martin Roberts

1 Soane Tonga'uiha
2 Andy Long
3 Brian Mujati
4 James Craig
5 Christian Day
6 Calum Clark (c)
7 Ben Nutley
8 Roger Wilson

Replacements

16 Mike Haywood
17 Alex Waller
18 Tom Mercey
19 Mark Sorenson
20 Samu Manoa
21 Ryan Glynn
22 Tom May
23 Vasily Artemyev

 

[Tier 3]

Hi all. New to the forum. I was wondering if anyone had any solid news of Yuri Kushnarev. I don't read Russian but it seems from this article that he was unable to find a club and has returned to Russia. Can anyone confirm?

 

[Bail]

Hi all. New to the forum. I was wondering if anyone had any solid news of Yuri Kushnarev. I don't read Russian but it seems from this article that he was unable to find a club and has returned to Russia. Can anyone confirm?

He's starting for Russia against Portugal today.
1 Botvinnikov, 2 V Tsnobiladze, 3 Matveev ; 4 Antonov, 5 Boltenkov ; 6 Temnov, 7 Garbuzov, 8 Gresev ; 9 Yanyushkin (c), 10 Ryabov ; 11 Simplikevich, 12 Makovetsky, 13 Gerasimov, 14 Ostroushko, 15 Kushnarev

16 G Tsnobiladze, 17 Zykov, 18 Kvernadze, 19 Fatahkov, 20 Shakirov, 21 Trishin, 22 Babaev

 

[Toby Faletau-Jones]

Russia are progressing really well, and played well against Australia in the World Cup. However, Georgia are perhaps developing the fastest, remember they nearly beat Ireland at the 07 WC, and Scotland at 11 WC.

Despite this they will not make the top 10 ever. Teams like Samoa, and Fiji will be pushing hardest for this. Anyway the rankings are a load of crap, and are not realistic apart from the top 3. (NZ, Aus and SA) France may be third, but they're around 7th in my eyes.

 

[SelimNiai]

Saw Russia won 33-32, sounded good and kudos to Russia

 

[Melhor Time]

hola k tal eres de brasil?

Thats bad Spanish and Brazil speaks Portuguese which is like comparing English to Dutch.

What you are trying to say is:

Olá, como vai. Voce é do Brasil.

 

[Tier 3]

He's starting for Russia against Portugal today.
1 Botvinnikov, 2 V Tsnobiladze, 3 Matveev ; 4 Antonov, 5 Boltenkov ; 6 Temnov, 7 Garbuzov, 8 Gresev ; 9 Yanyushkin (c), 10 Ryabov ; 11 Simplikevich, 12 Makovetsky, 13 Gerasimov, 14 Ostroushko, 15 Kushnarev

16 G Tsnobiladze, 17 Zykov, 18 Kvernadze, 19 Fatahkov, 20 Shakirov, 21 Trishin, 22 Babaev

Cool. Was wondering if there was any news on his club situation. Blog seems to suggest his trial with the Rebels was unsuccessful and he wasn't able to link up with any Sydney clubs either. A shame if true.


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