Not Eddie Jones
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I think the fact that you are in your mid 40's and only know it as a rugby song sums up the big issues with it.
If people can get over it why can't you get over your rugby song that has been sung for what 22 years (is that even half your age?) might be upsetting or awkward for others?
Also I'm sorry as a white middle man I'll take your word on racial discrimination.
Wasn't the whole protest at this targeting the establishment? They are telling you what racism is going on but your too blinkered by the statues, Tv Sitcoms and rugby song to listen mate. Also thinking that a diverse cabinet = racism gone....
How many BME are on the rugby council or admins Level?
You seem to be assuming I'm white...? Why? Bit racist, isn't it? When I said 'my culture', I was referring to myself as an Englishman. Also, you seem to be implying that white people don't understand racial discrimination. Again, you appear to be making judgements based on the colour of someone's skin. My hero MLK may have said his piece 50 years ago, but that doesn't mean it isn't still relevant, and you've just proved exactly why.
For your information, I was born and raised in London and have lived and worked in London boroughs for most of my life. London is the most diverse city in the country and the boroughs in which I've grown up, lived and worked, such as Newham and Hackney, have some of the largest percentages of ethic minorities of any areas in the UK. As a result, the vast majority of my friends and work colleagues are not white. And to a person, they are very unhappy with what is going on at the moment in their name. They hate the term BME as it indicates they are all part of one group with the same experience, as opposed to individuals; they hate the idea that this is being presented as opposition to the concept of 'whiteness'; hate being represented by the mainstream media and blm as victims; and feel that neither the mainstream media nor blm represent them in any way and that they are actually doing more harm than good with the way they are presenting the country as a vile pit of racism and white oppression. We all absolutely hate identity politics. Now, am I to form my opinions by listening to and talking with real people on the ground, individuals with individual thoughts and feelings, or should I take the word of those who tell me what ethic minorities think: the newspapers desperate to stop their circulation falling further, tv channels desperate to increase their failing viewing figures, corporations desperate to sell more product by virtue signalling? Should I just accept that my colour of skin defines me? No thank you. I certainly will never accept representation by an organisation that openly states on its website that it wants to abolish the police, capitalism, state structures, personal property and the nuclear family, raising all children in collectives. Blm are not taking my children away! That organisation does not represent me and they never will and I think you'll be surprised to see how many people say this if you start looking round the internet.
Btw, I never said that a diverse cabinet=racism gone. I was saying that if racism is at an all-time high, then we wouldn't have so many ethnic minorities in the highest positions of power in the land. I do not feel that this country is hugely racist. Maybe the odd individual, sure, but that's always gonna be the case. I, like everybody else in this country, have my rights enshrined in the Equalities Act 2010 and just do not see this institutional racism everywhere (again, a very nebulous concept). You say that people are giving actual examples of endemic racism in this country, but that just isn't the case. Everything's a just a general, nebulous, unprovable term or slogan, usually wrapped up in identity politics, which is itself wrapped up in group-think. I don't do group-think. Is racism a big problem in the US? Sure. But in the UK? Man, we've never had it so good.
Hey, it's just my view, my opinion, and as I say, everybody has one, and no-one's opinion is more valid than anybody else's.
Man, I shouldn't have got into this. I usually stick to just commenting on rugby, because all this political stuff just annoys me. Peace, Tigs Man. You sing your England song and I'll sing mine, and hopefully we can go back to vehemently disagreeing about Eddie Jones' selections in the near future.