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Wales will give a bigger and better performance! Edwards and Gatland will ensure this! I reckon a SA victory but within 10 points with Wales giving a good account for themselves!
Gatland needs to bring in Delve for Dafydd Jones and Fury for Cooper! Would like to see Tom James get a run but it wont happen!
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I'll you give you Welsh boys one thing, you're very optimistic.
Why do you guys lambast over Edwards and Gatland so much? Throw me concerts and give them awards. They still have much to prove
So much praise is not very constructive
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How many coaching set-ups in the World would have taken Wales from a WC pool-stage exit to a Grand Slam? None bar Edwards and Gatland in World rugby at the moment. Besides, a loss to the World Champions, in their own back yard, missing many key players, having to get used to the altitude and conditions and having to get used to the Ed+Gat style of play after the majority of this Welsh squad went back to Lyn Jones (he's the epitomy of a **** coach, so you know) at the Ospreys doesn't change
that much. You guys seem to be taking it way overboard as if Wales are suddenly nobody's again. If you come to Cardiff in the Autumn and beat our full strength side, then I'll admit I was wrong, but until then... [/b][/quote]
Everybody this side of Texas is took the 6N grand slam victory with a big grain of salt. You guys went crazy when you beat the 6N teams (who were plagued with injury problems, you can't deny that one) but when you's get your ass handed to you when
you're the one's suffering from injuries you guys act surprised and start turning to all sorts of excuses. Much the same excuses you guys didn't have much sympathy for during the other teams 6N's campaign. And I'm sure nobody in SA is giving the Welsh any sympathy because we had just as many obstacles to face (*refer to the 1st post of this thread*).
Edwards had hordes of male groupie after the 6N as defense was your strong point but as soon as Wales faced a team that had some form of attacking prowess, he says the Welsh players are "a bit rusty". Everybody was going on how Gatland said that the Welsh boys were gonna take the Boks on physically, and everybody ate that one up to.. Sorry but there are quite a few coaches above Gatland and especially Edwards, they both did a great job at the Wasps but still have much to prove on the international stage.
Maybe it's me but I've never heard or seen a nation go so 'gaga' over a coach before after not proving much.
But that's just 'ol cynical me talking
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Urm .... :lol2tn:
Are we looking for sympathy? Hell no but you seem to think so ...
I dont think any of 'Us Welsh' have denied anything from the South Africa win! Of course the side is affected by injuries! Gavin Henson who is the pinical player in the defence is injured, this guy commands the defence line. Lee Byrne who is our only decent fullback is missing through injury, our icon Nugget is injured. Of course injuries affect a team and its nature. Wales dont have the depth and strength that many of the sides in the world have. Take SA for instance, you loose Du Preez and Burger but you have someone equal as good to replace them! Im not making excuses and far from it, we played poorly and end of and South Africa deserved the win.
Regarding the coaches, I think what they have acheived with Wales is pretty amazing. To take a squad not long before a 6 Nations campaign, get them to gel and play a certain style of rugby is pretty darn good. Edwards has installed the same defence that brought Wasps the Guniess Prem ***le this season, and he did the job for Wales during the 6 Nations. But of course the defence was pretty non existent in the game and especially at the breakdown!
Gatland major fault was starting Cooper, Dafydd Jones and Sonny Parker. But then again with the 'vast' resource of players we have here in Wales had no choice. Time after Time, SA backs were just runnign through the welsh backs like a hot knife through butter, the main problem? Parker and his mind which lead to others having to attempt to cover up his mistakes in the midfield!
Wales are going to struggle unless they change as I ahve said before, if Gatland sticks with the same side then it will be a similar scoreline, but if he rings the correct changes then it may be a different game, which will still lead to a Boks victory!
"Everybody was going on how Gatland said that the Welsh boys were gonna take the Boks on physically, and everybody ate that one up to"
Sorry but that is quite poor to bring that out, SA are big boys who will bully, they did the job in the game and Wales had to man up to them but failed and failed miserably. Now to go on and say we ate it up is not really true at all. So what was Gatland meant to say, lads we dont need to take the boks on physically we can just imagine it. Something that the great Steve Black would have said!
But what annoys me the most about the post above is that you seem to think that the 'Welsh Boyos' on this forum are throwing excuses around about the game. The fact is we have a squad with mass amount of injuries, thats a fact whether or not you like it! I also dont think any of us are saying that South Africa did not deserve a win, far from it! South Africa came, saw and conqured!
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