[2025 Six Nations] Italy vs Wales - 08/02/25

[Welsh Exile]

It's quite possible that both Eng and Wal go into the final game with no more than one win.

Has there previously been a 6N game after which both coaches have been fired?

That's crazy isn't it. I can't recall a 6N where you've had that scenario on the final day but I can barely remember last week.

England have a surprise result against Scotland or France in them I reckon.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

I just hope everyone involved has fun.

Apart from Warren.

 

[OllyM97]

That's crazy isn't it. I can't recall a 6N where you've had that scenario on the final day but I can barely remember last week.

England have a surprise result against Scotland or France in them I reckon.

The fact that you're saying that an England win at home to France or Scotland would be a surprise is an absolutely damning indictment of where English rugby is at - you're not wrong btw. To be honest I'd be strongly tempted to put money on Italy to beat us if we go into that game 0 from 3. Their odds in that scenario would be higher than they should be because they've never beaten us.

 

[Welsh Exile]

The fact that you're saying that an England win at home to France or Scotland would be a surprise is an absolutely damning indictment of where English rugby is at - you're not wrong btw. To be honest I'd be strongly tempted to put money on Italy to beat us if we go into that game 0 from 3. Their odds in that scenario would be higher than they should be because they've never beaten us.

I thought I might be being a bit harsh in including Scotland to be fair. Don't get me wrong, I think Scotland are a better side and their record against you in recent years is good, but I would t be surprised if you won that. But yeah, underdogs for both is a bit of a damning indictment for England. Sad state of affairs to us too.

 

[OllyM97]

I thought I might be being a bit harsh in including Scotland to be fair. Don't get me wrong, I think Scotland are a better side and their record against you in recent years is good, but I would t be surprised if you won that. But yeah, underdogs for both is a bit of a damning indictment for England. Sad state of affairs to us too.

Neither England and Wales being in the top half of a 6 Nations table would be absolutely nuts. It's probably happened on the odd occasion since 2000 but I can't think of the years off the top of my head. To be fair, we're not going to win the 6N but we've got to beat the Jocks - that's the one game where us being fired up should be an absolute given because of their record against us in recent years. At this point I'd take losing every other game as long as we won the Calcutta. Can't bear the thought of them absolute b******s getting one over us again.

 

[dullonien]

Sounds like the only changes to the side will be enforced, with Faletau coming in for Waiwright (although Wainwright may be on the bench if he recovers with Reffell dropping out of the 23) + Eddie James for Watkin.

WoL do get their leaked teams accurate more often than not, so high probability that's what it'll be.

To stick with Thomas at 10 and Tompkins at 13 would be reidiculous after the weekend. Don't care much for Sanjay at 15 either, not had a good game for Wales in a long time now! Botham didn't register either at 6.

Gats deserves another loss if that turns out to be the case!