Sexton vs Trinh-Duc

[Feicarsinn]

I think Sexton's the better 10 but TD is a better rugby player, if you know what I mean.

I'd go along with this. TD is probably more creative and has a better eye for the gap whereas Sexton's game management is better than his French counterpart's. That's not to say that either of them are weak in those areas, but TD would be a better outside back than Sexton if they were moved there.

Personally I don't see why this thread has gone on for five pages. They're pretty similar in standard really, and a class above anything else in Europe at the moment (for all the talk of James Hook). If Ireland and Leinster are going well Sexton is going to be judged as the better player and vice versa with France, Montpellier and Trinh-Duc.


Meh.

 

[Aout]

You guys still have the same point of view about Sexton after he failed, once again, to do anything against TD ?

 

[Logorrhea]

You guys still have the same point of view about Sexton after he failed, once again, to do anything against TD ?

Are you going to harp on about this thread everytime Trin-duc does soemthing decent? Do you believe it was Trin-duc that played deciding role, or your pack?

Incidently, have you revised your opinion on how awesome Poux was going to be? Does it work both ways with you or just when its convenient?

 

[Aout]

Not every time, only once. I'm glad, it's the first time you (not you especially) really paid attention to TD, now you'll keep an eye on him during the RWC. This is all I wanted. Making sure that you realize there's someone else next to Flood and Sexton.
And yes I do believe TD played a decisive role. We had 30 outstanding minutes in the first game. Since TD moved from fly half to first center. And we struggled during the 10 first minutes of the second game. Till TD came on the pitch.

Our pack was pretty poor during the 2nd half of the 2nd game. And even during the first game it was not close to the pack we used to have (with the likes of Mas-Servat-Domingo, Nallet-Millo Chluski, Harinordoquy-Dusautoir-Picamoles).

Agree with you about Poux, he had a poor performance last sat.

And it does work both ways, after both FR/IRL games it was too tempting not to resurrect this thread while reading again your previous posts (with things like TD can't use his boot, etc) .

 

[Logorrhea]

after both FR/IRL games it was too tempting not to resurrect this thread while reading again your previous posts (with things like TD can't use his boot, etc) .

Well I'm easy with it to a degree. Ive always rated Trin-duc so Ive no problem with what your saying in general.

I do stick with the majority when I say he cant kick though. That was always in reference to his kicking from the ground. Sexton has a very high ratio of kicks at goal, Trin-duc doesnt kick at all. That always worth noting when comparing a 10.

His drop-goal was a nice one alright.

 

[McTallshort]

Sexton is good but do you guys honestly rate him alongside Trin-duc? Green tinted glasses Im afraid lads

 

[JW.]

I'd rate Trinh-Duc higher as Sexton, better all round player. But as every frenchmen he has his ups and downs. Did win France the game tho, should be pretty good behind the real french pack.

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

It's RWC time; you can't really expect objective comments. Morne Steyn besit albei in elk geval.

 

[big ginger 8]

As Ze Frenchy said Sexton better 10 Trinh-Duc better player and since they both play 10 I'd go for Sexton. Also not saying he didn't play well and that these two things didn't take skill. The drop-goal and try were both perfectly set up by TO'L and well Sexton had to play with him for that game. While T-D was with Parra. When your with the only scrum-half I can think of who sets up the opposition better than his own team it's incredibly hard to play well.

 

[Aedaphon]

I do stick with the majority when I say he cant kick though. That was always in reference to his kicking from the ground. Sexton has a very high ratio of kicks at goal, Trin-duc doesnt kick at all. That always worth noting when comparing a 10.

His drop-goal was a nice one alright.

He's in a pairing with the two best place-kicking scrum-halves in Europe, if not all of international rugby. While as an isolated individual the lack of place-kicking might count against him, I'd say it's more an issue of he's never been needed to kick, so why waste the time training to?

 

[big ginger 8]

To better himself.

 

[calculon]

Sexton is good but do you guys honestly rate him alongside Trin-duc? Green tinted glasses Im afraid lads

You guys are all lame really- I've read most of your posts and all you do is bicker back and forth at each other. You all clearly have a vested interest - if you're English, you won't want to believe Sexton is any better than Flood. If you're Irish, you're a Sexton fan-boy. If you're "French" English, you won't want anyone to believe Sexton is better than Flood. If you're "French" Irish, you won't want anyone to believe Sexton is not the man... lame. If you're Scottish, or Welsh, you're probably towing the same line as if you're English.

Can we just leave it at that? Sexton is 26. Trinhduc is 24 - they are both young and up and coming fly halfs. Trinh Duc is so far by far the better player internationally, whilst Sexton is easily the better player at club level - just going by raw statistics. Am I being unreasonable here? Carter is vastly superior to either of them..

 

[McTallshort]

Who have I bickered with? I am allowed an opinion and the forum is asking Sexton or Trinh-duc. Yes Carter is vastly superior to both and if I had the choice I would have Hook over either of them but if you ask me to make the choice its Trinh-duc everytime

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Christ, Calculon, not everyone is as against the Irish as you believe

Sexton is better than Flood, I'll be the first to admit that, and I'm English

 

[psychic duck]

Sexton and Trinh-Duc are quite evenly matched

this thread has had no good debate, and rather people just saying one is crap too justify preferring one over the other

 

[calculon]

Christ, Calculon, not everyone is as against the Irish as you believe

Sexton is better than Flood, I'll be the first to admit that, and I'm English

I don't care honestly. It's just so badly argued. That's the problem. When people make posts, maybe they should provide more context. I didn't vote in the poll. Polls without context invite this kind of wild subjectiveness. It would be better to specify whether it's at club level or international. Also, yes, I am paranoid,... and yes, everyone is out to get the Irish

 

[Logorrhea]

this thread has had no good debate, and rather people just saying one is crap too justify preferring one over the other

I think a more appropriate word would be "informed" with regards to the debate.

The majority of Irish posters talking up Sexton havent watched enough Top14. The majority of French posters havent watched enough ML and HEC.

Ignorance however, is widely accepted on this forum. Why question it in this thread?

 

[M Two One]

François Trinh-Duc any time.

 

[ZeFrenchy]

I think the last game should not be considered when evaluating Sexton. Nobody can play with TOL playing like that, even DC would have struggled.

On the "who's better" debate, I think they're pretty even at this point, though I get the impression that Trinh-Duc is still improving, whereas Sexton hasn't really added anything to his game. I think the best Sexton I've seen was HEC semis in '09.

 

[elgringoborracho]

Sexton is better at place kicking and the loop set move he does 7 times per game.