[RWC2023] Ireland vs Scotland (07/10/2023)

[IT157]

Did you expect them to win, or even be competitive in those 2 games?

No, me neither, then WTF are we talking about man?!?!

Can't believe I have to explain this, but I'll try.

They were supposed to be more competitive/put up a fight more than previous Italy teams. They had pushed France close in the 6 nations, and were starting to get results against other tier one teams. They seemed to be on an upward curve.

No one thought they were favourites against New Zealand or France. But they got thrashed by New Zealand more than anyone predicted. And they got spanked by France. I think both were their biggest losses to these two teams! That was not expected. It was supposed to be closer than the scores showed. Hence why they are considered a disappointment.

 

[General Melchett]

Agreed… but what everyone seems to be ignoring is that on the Scots performance level this World Cup, them qualifying out of Groups C and D isn't the formality many would have you believe.

Nobody said it would be a formality but it'd be far more likely than any team in pools C or D beating RSA or Ire.

 

[IT157]

God I hate this song.

Sweet Caroline is awful as well.

 

[g6mcg]

Agreed… but what everyone seems to be ignoring is that on the Scots performance level this World Cup, them qualifying out of Groups C and D isn't the formality many would have you believe either.

Having to play SA and Ireland isn't that comparable to Japan/Argentina/Australia (is what I'll be telling myself at 3am)

Being uncompetitive in both games does add to the feeling we'd have somehow blown C/D though.

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

Very nice from Ireland. I expect a similar scoreline and uncompetitive match against NZ in the quarterfinal. I think Ireland can out the AB to sleep in a similar fashion.

 

[IT157]

Scotland won the second half 14-10....

 

[dirty harry]

Can't believe I have to explain this, but I'll try.

They were supposed to be more competitive/put up a fight more than previous Italy teams. They had pushed France close in the 6 nations, and were starting to get results against other tier one teams. They seemed to be on an upward curve.

No one thought they were favourites against New Zealand or France. But they got thrashed by New Zealand more than anyone predicted. And they got spanked by France. I think both were their biggest losses to these two teams! That was not expected. It was supposed to be closer than the scores showed. Hence why they are considered a disappointment.

Except Italy have finished 3rd in their group at every RWC...

And finished 3rd this year. They were predicted to win 2 and lose 2, which they did...

Noone cares about their points difference, their goal would have been to qualify from their group for the first ever time, which they didnt do, but their minimum requirement would have been 3rd to auto qualify which they did...

Bang exactly where everyone thought they would have been, so they matched expectations.

 

[dirty harry]

Pivot moment.
What could have happened? We ll never know.

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How dare you!!! This was checked by the TMO and it was 100% not in touch!

Ffs

 

[IT157]

Very nice from Ireland. I expect a similar scoreline and uncompetitive match against NZ in the quarterfinal. I think Ireland can out the AB to sleep in a similar fashion.

No chance it will be this easy. I actually think the All Blacks will win it with a dodgy decision. And Sexton goes on a rampage attacking the ref.

 

[General Melchett]

Maybe, maybe not one team from them would have qualified, this is conjecture, but based on Scotland's what 50% progression rate at TWC's theres a decent chance Scotland wouldnt have made it out of group C or D either lol

lol. Conjecture countered by..... conjecture? Lol. You're full of **** mate.

 

[dirty harry]

Nobody said it would be a formality but it'd be far more likely than any team in pools C or D beating RSA or Ire.

I give Wales a better chance of qualifying from Scotland group, than Scotland winning Wales group.

 

[dirty harry]

lol. Conjecture countered by..... conjecture? Lol. You're full of **** mate.

Exactly, proving conjecture stupid lol

 

[Jimbo]

Aki is on another level, I've always rated him but this WC, probably be my first player in a world 15.

 

[IT157]

Except Italy have finished 3rd in their group at every RWC...

And finished 3rd this year. They were predicted to win 2 and lose 2, which they did...

Noone cares about their points difference, their goal would have been to qualify from their group for the first ever time, which they didnt do, but their minimum requirement would have been 3rd to auto qualify which they did...

Bang exactly where everyone thought they would have been, so they matched expectations.apitulated

The expectations were to give France and New Zealand more of a game than they did. They capitulated more so than usual. So no, they did not meet expectations in performance at all. So yes, they have been a disappointment in regards to the performances that were expected.

 

[General Melchett]

I give Wales a better chance of qualifying from Scotland group, than Scotland winning Wales group.

That is the ultimate lol given that Scotland have owned Australia, Fiji and Georgia for years. Lay off the whisky pal.

 

[bushytop]

Nobody said it would be a formality but it'd be far more likely than any team in pools C or D beating RSA or Ire.

The whole rugby world has been saying how Scotland would've breezed through groups C & D for the longest.

 

[IT157]

The whole rugby world has been saying how Scotland would've breezed through groups C & D for the longest.

Well considering they are ranked 5th in the world, the odds would have been better in either of those groups. And they would have been more favoured to qualify.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

D'Arcy looks like that episode of Always Sunny where they keep taking Frank's blood and he goes all grey and pale

 

[General Melchett]

The whole rugby world has been saying how Scotland would've breezed through groups C & D for the longest.

Enjoy getting to the SF. I think you'll do it.

 

[dirty harry]

The expectations were to give France and New Zealand more of a game than they did. They capitulated more so than usual. So no, they did not meet expectations in performance at all. So yes, they have been a disappointment in regards to the performances that were expected.

Your not understanding...

Italy had a minimum requirement of 3rd, qualifying for 2027. They acheived a minimum, and they performed exactly as everyone thought.

In comparison, Australia had a minimum requirement of qualification to quarters, which they failed to do. Australia clearly underperformed massively.

I'd say Gerogia underperformed worse than Italy, they wanted minimum 1 win, ideally 2 wins, and a shot at auto qualification. They never managed any of that.