RWC: Springboks - Samoa (30-09-2011, 20:30)

[kusta]

I'm not Samoan or South African so I have no eyepatch on. Look, hanging onto someone like that so far off the ball is hardly even a penalty offence it does not justify someone whacking him in the head!If you think Williams deserved a red card then you're also saying Brussouw deserves one cause Brussouw's was worse.

I didn't write the laws now did I? But I believe a strike to the face is a red card regardless if its a fist or an open hand!

 

[DariusLovehall]

All of you who have watched the FULL replay and seen that Brussouw in fact punched and struck Williams with his forearm and then pleaded to the touch judge like he had done nothing wrong when he was looked at ....
You know he was in the wrong your just looking thru your saffer tinted specs and not admitting Brussouw needed a card.

The touchies comments to the ref proved he missed the initial strikes to the head made by Brussouw.

Its all their in the footage!



Williams smacked in the face and head again and again ... then in the arms a couple times - he gets up and open hand shoves Brussouw in the side of the head - ... SOFT - and Brussouw take the Dive ....

 

[TRF_Olyy]

If the thouch judges missed it what more do you want?
There's nothing they can do about it, so quit whining


Also the hit from Williams was on the side away from the touch judge, he just saw that a hit took place and presumed it was closed fist


If there's any justice then HB will get cited, if not then get over it and move on

 

[austingtir]

^^ ridiculous decision and the touch judge is probably most at fault there. No way was that ever a red card. I dont blame the samoans for blowing up on twitter over this.

 

[kusta]

That is bull that was a red card offense no matter how you look at it,the John Smit one was not worthy of a Yellow Card!! Everyone hates on South Africa these days so its understandable why many believ Brussouw was wrong for hitting someone who was holding him for no reason than makes a cheap shot at him when he is not looking...A very b*tch move indeed-_-

 

[DariusLovehall]

If the thouch judges missed it what more do you want?
There's nothing they can do about it, so quit whining


Also the hit from Williams was on the side away from the touch judge, he just saw that a hit took place and presumed it was closed fist


If there's any justice then HB will get cited, if not then get over it and move on

Pfftttt what are you on about - shut up and move on yourself if it has nothing todo with you SOOK!

Im simply showing evidence to some posters who don't think Brussouw was hitting Williams in the head - there it is in Video.

If a strike to the face is a red card offense then Brussouw shoulda gone first.

Get off your highhorses Saffers - its there in video.....

of course the touchie didn't see it, and the media is playing it down - so Brussouw won't get charged, but it doesn't change the fact
that it did happen and Williams was hard done by ......


now i'll move on ----- <_<

 

[TRF_Olyy]

That is bull that was a red card offense no matter how you look at it,the John Smit one was not worthy of a Yellow Card!! Everyone hates on South Africa these days so its understandable why many believ Brussouw was wrong for hitting someone who was holding him for no reason than makes a cheap shot at him when he is not looking...A very b*tch move indeed-_-

Yes it was - deliberate knock down of the ball while in the 22 (or thereabouts) stopping an attack for Samoa
Clear yellow card

 

[Siva Tau]

FWIW, I think Samoa has been incredible this year, were unlucky to lose to Wales and deserve more international games. It is also about time a tier one country actually played one of the islands in the islands.

Wales has and I recall France, both deserve great credit for this. SA, Aus & particularly the AB's should be ashamed they havent given there closer proximity.

 

[Siva Tau]

Honestly don't know what this hating on the Ref is all about,SA had a number of calls that went against them too and in fact even if the Ref wasn't as bad as he was I think Samoa will be lucky to just have been beaten by such a small margin if we didn't go to sleep in the 2nd half. But hats off for them cos they also came out firing after half time,but if we played nearly as good as we played in the 1st 10-20min of the first half the whole game the score wouldve been bigger...


In all honesty though Samoa never looked like winning that game regardless of their attack in the 2nd half and even if they did score they wouldve been 12 up against 13 from the boks and thats if Pisi converted, their discipline is something they also need to look at too if they want to compete with big teams cos you can't just do off the ball stuff and so many number of high tackles(which were not penalised) in fact I would love to see the number of infrigments penalised cos it looks like we got penalised more in this match!!



On anothe note I think its a massive blow that we lost Frans Steyn!! That could possibly mean the end of our World Cup and I know you probably think I'm too dramatic but its true! Not only do we miss an extra kicker who could kick from like 60m meaning teams would need to be weary of giving penalties in their own 10m line, but we also lost someone who can get us against the Advantage line cos JDV just can't do that and when we come against Nonu(Yes we will beat Australia) who I rate as the Best No.12 in the world it will be vital.

Head high tackles ? Seriously.

Sapolu was far more threatening than Steyn

 

[Peat]

Well, as for the Brussow, Williams thing I think Brussow went a tad far in trying to get Williams off but the first infringment is Williiams hanging on to him ilegally and Brussow had to demonstrate to bring it under the attention of the touch judge (did he go a bit far? maybe) but a red card is the sanctioned penalty for striking a player in the face and that is exactly what happened even if it was with a flat hand it was definately a strike and a cheap one at that to a player looking the other way. Fair call IMO. Williams had a brain fart and was unlucky enough to get called on it. There were loads of other off the ball stuff from both teams. It did get balanced out and absurdly so with that ridiculous Smit yellow; how do you get a yellow when a try isn't on the cards and the ball didn't even go straight down?

You are entitled to indicate foul play to the ref. You are not entitled to do so in an illegal fashion. I remember Danny Grewcock getting sent off for stamping on Steven Ferris, when Ferris held onto Grewcock at a ruck in a similar way. Brussow could well have been cautioned for his acts. That doesn't excuse Williams' reaction at all. That was a stone cold red card (even if Brussow went down like a wendyballing sackof spuds).

Oh, and the Smit yellow was a yellow all day long. Deliberately and cynically spoiled a Samoan attack by an illegal action.

 

[kusta]

Yes it was - deliberate knock down of the ball while in the 22 (or thereabouts) stopping an attack for SamoaClear yellow card

Nah it was in Samoa's half between the half way line and their 10m line,far from the try line and there was no guarantee they were going to score.And John Smit ddnt delibrately knock the ball down cos the ball went straight ahead,not that he was gonna catch it thou he has caught the ball with one hand before(Against Australia) but it defianetly wasn't a yellow card offense,scrum or penalty at best considering we wernt even on any official warning for anything

 

[Siva Tau]

I have to say I thought Smit yellow was harsh IMO and smacked of a square up. Felt sorry for him coming on after Bismarcks great game.

 

[TRF_heineken]

Pfftttt what are you on about - shut up and move on yourself if it has nothing todo with you SOOK!

Im simply showing evidence to some posters who don't think Brussouw was hitting Williams in the head - there it is in Video.

If a strike to the face is a red card offense then Brussouw shoulda gone first.

Get off your highhorses Saffers - its there in video.....

of course the touchie didn't see it, and the media is playing it down - so Brussouw won't get charged, but it doesn't change the fact
that it did happen and Williams was hard done by ......


now i'll move on ----- <_<

What's also on the video is the scoreboard! Check it again...

 

[Seaton]

Yes it was - deliberate knock down of the ball while in the 22 (or thereabouts) stopping an attack for Samoa
Clear yellow card

In addition to a post or two above, Smit's paw and arm was moving up the whole time in order to get the ball, with his hand going a few centimetres down at the last moment because he miss timed it.

Fact is, that was on the replay, Owens had it real time, more than a few metres away and possibly not the best angle, so if I were a ref, wouldnae have given it (yellow) , but fair call

 

[sasa]

Games over! but here's the thing I think Samoans are angered by

Our players got less rest than say Wales and South Africa did!

4 days to play Wales then 5 days to play South Africa...We'll done Samoa! physically weak spiritually strong! if I had one thing to complain it be that!

The difference between Samoa being in the Quaterfinals was that...Tusi Pisi if he had just 3 days to recover from a strain injury believe me that Welsh would be on the plane home not samoa

 

[Wally]

Samoa were defiantly dealt an unfair draw compared to Wales and South Africa, and under different circumstances could have perhaps beaten both. Maybe the IRB will learn from this world cup that the so called minnow nations should not be continually disadvantaged in order to favour the traditional rugby powers. Unlikely though.

 

[Bail]

I don't think it has got anything to do with the IRB. If SANZAR wanted Samoa in the competition then they would add them. The fact is that there is no way Samoa would be able to compete week in and week out in the 4 Nations. For one does Samoa have a stadium with the facilities to host the other teams?

Always the same arguments. Do you think Faroe Island have facilities to host national soccer teams. FIFA overpowers money consideration, IRB must do the same.

 

[Bail]

Samoa were defiantly dealt an unfair draw compared to Wales and South Africa, and under different circumstances could have perhaps beaten both. Maybe the IRB will learn from this world cup that the so called minnow nations should not be continually disadvantaged in order to favour the traditional rugby powers. Unlikely though.

This s*** will finish in a massive boycott from all non-foundation nations.

 

[TRF_Ezequiel]

Le trolle is back... Nothing of importance coming out of his keyboard.

Can't you just go out and play or something?

 

[lucky number 7]

Bail ...you upset me.