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RWC 2023 Predictions

Scotland, Ireland, SA all to win one and lose one against each other in the group.

Really think if Scotland put a game together they could quite feasibly scalp SA or maybe Ireland.
 
I think France have the strongest 15 in the world now, and personally I give us second if our injury prognoses work out. I accept we're vulnerable with a few injuries and the Saffas look very well set into the late stage of the tournament with their depth. I do think people looking past our 18 unbeaten games in favour for 4, 8 and 12 year old results is a bit ridiculous, but it comes with the territory I suppose.

New Zealand are weirdly overrated in some corners and underrated in others. I personally think NZ are a lot weaker than they've been for a few world cups, but I think there's some recency bias at play, they did still win TRC.

People backing Scotland as a dark horse is a bit of a head scratcher for me but who knows I guess.
 
Scotland, Ireland, SA all to win one and lose one against each other in the group.

Really think if Scotland put a game together they could quite feasibly scalp SA or maybe Ireland.
Do a cherry blossoms in Brighton?
 
I think France have the strongest 15 in the world now, and personally I give us second if our injury prognoses work out. I accept we're vulnerable with a few injuries and the Saffas look very well set into the late stage of the tournament with their depth. I do think people looking past our 18 unbeaten games in favour for 4, 8 and 12 year old results is a bit ridiculous, but it comes with the territory I suppose.

New Zealand are weirdly overrated in some corners and underrated in others. I personally think NZ are a lot weaker than they've been for a few world cups, but I think there's some recency bias at play, they did still win TRC.

People backing Scotland as a dark horse is a bit of a head scratcher for me but who knows I guess.

NZ have a decent side. They'll be hard to beat and I wouldn't read too much into that big win the Boks had. And I can't see Scotland making it out the pool. Ireland, SA and even Tonga aren't bad.
 
Scotland, Ireland, SA all to win one and lose one against each other in the group.
Say that happens. Would you fancy your odds of scoring more points/point dif/etc (tiebreakers)? For instance, i like Argentina's odds against England but i am not sure we could score more points or have a better team difference vs the rest of the teams in our group.

Funnily enough WR rankings are a tiebreaker, albeit the last one if i recall correctly.
 
Scotland really have been dealt a shocker of a hand with the draw. They're in pretty good form and it's a pity that they're highly likely to go home early while other teams they would fancy their chances of beating will advance to the QFs and SF. It's also a pity that two of SA/NZ/FR/IR will also go home before the SFs. Them's the breaks I guess. Hopefully WR will make the next draw closer to the actual comp. On the plus side, at least Fiji and Samoa have a reasonable chance of reaching a QF. Would be great if we have another Japan v SA type upset.
 
I think France have the strongest 15 in the world now, and personally I give us second if our injury prognoses work out. I accept we're vulnerable with a few injuries and the Saffas look very well set into the late stage of the tournament with their depth. I do think people looking past our 18 unbeaten games in favour for 4, 8 and 12 year old results is a bit ridiculous, but it comes with the territory I suppose.

New Zealand are weirdly overrated in some corners and underrated in others. I personally think NZ are a lot weaker than they've been for a few world cups, but I think there's some recency bias at play, they did still win TRC.

People backing Scotland as a dark horse is a bit of a head scratcher for me but who knows I guess.
13 games unbeaten. 18 is the record. All we have to do to beat it is top our pool and win a QF so it's pretty much in the bag.
 
Surprised to see so many people fancying Australia to do well given their current situation. They've lost 5 on the bounce and have an inexperienced 10 who isn't a top line goal kicker with no back up if he goes down injured.

As an English fan I've felt it's been fated to have a Aus vs England QF since Eddie was sacked but now there's a good chance neither will get out of their group.

Overall I think France and South Africa have the depth and quality to win it but I've had this feeling Scotland to beat the beat the Boks. When on song the Boks are neigh on unplayable but unless Pollard comes back in the the lack of a top line goal kicker could hurt them in tight games. At the weekend France racked up a score without having a huge amount of possession or territory.

Irelands depth is better than it has been in recent tournaments, but don't seem too fancied which is odd as they've beaten all comers the last couple of years, this year they've only really been challenged by France which was comfortable but at home. Given the draw they could quite easily go out at the usual QF stage.

Scotland I think will beat one of Ireland/SA more so the latter but not consistent enough, they don't seem to have an 80 minute performance in them, tending to put in a good 40 mins which won't be good enough to go all the way.

New Zealand 🇳🇿 a lot of folk seem to be writing them off now after the hiding they took from the Boks. Listened to a few Kiwi pundits and they reckon their a bit predicable.

There's no one in theor group that over power Wales like the Boks did in the warm up. I really hope Fiji get out of their group but don't expect anyone will steam roller Wales from that group.
 
I think France have the strongest 15 in the world now, and personally I give us second if our injury prognoses work out. I accept we're vulnerable with a few injuries and the Saffas look very well set into the late stage of the tournament with their depth. I do think people looking past our 18 unbeaten games in favour for 4, 8 and 12 year old results is a bit ridiculous, but it comes with the territory I suppose.

New Zealand are weirdly overrated in some corners and underrated in others. I personally think NZ are a lot weaker than they've been for a few world cups, but I think there's some recency bias at play, they did still win TRC.

People backing Scotland as a dark horse is a bit of a head scratcher for me but who knows I guess.
I'm not sure that France have the best 15 in the world. Definitely the best 9,10 and centre pairing and one of the best wings in Penaud
South Africa's pack is quite a bit better imo and Ireland tight 5 is again imo better. What France are arguably the best coached side the world, which makes a massive difference
 
It isn't Ireland's past WC performance that makes me skeptical, it's that they are depending on Leinster players to show up during big games.

New Zealand gets too much credit for improving from their crap form over the last two years.
 
Surprised to see so many people fancying Australia to do well given their current situation. They've lost 5 on the bounce and have an inexperienced 10 who isn't a top line goal kicker with no back up if he goes down injured.

As an English fan I've felt it's been fated to have a Aus vs England QF since Eddie was sacked but now there's a good chance neither will get out of their group.

Overall I think France and South Africa have the depth and quality to win it but I've had this feeling Scotland to beat the beat the Boks. When on song the Boks are neigh on unplayable but unless Pollard comes back in the the lack of a top line goal kicker could hurt them in tight games. At the weekend France racked up a score without having a huge amount of possession or territory.

Irelands depth is better than it has been in recent tournaments, but don't seem too fancied which is odd as they've beaten all comers the last couple of years, this year they've only really been challenged by France which was comfortable but at home. Given the draw they could quite easily go out at the usual QF stage.

Scotland I think will beat one of Ireland/SA more so the latter but not consistent enough, they don't seem to have an 80 minute performance in them, tending to put in a good 40 mins which won't be good enough to go all the way.

New Zealand 🇳🇿 a lot of folk seem to be writing them off now after the hiding they took from the Boks. Listened to a few Kiwi pundits and they reckon their a bit predicable.

There's no one in theor group that over power Wales like the Boks did in the warm up. I really hope Fiji get out of their group but don't expect anyone will steam roller Wales from that group.
I'd still have the Boks as favourites to beat Scotland and some. Not having a 85% goal kicker might be an issue with opposition who have a strong pack. Against Scotland they just need a 10 who can kick to the corner. I don't think Scotland have the pack to stop what comes next. Other than France/Ireland not many teams can or will.
 
It isn't Ireland's past WC performance that makes me skeptical, it's that they are depending on Leinster players to show up during big games.
I'd say it's more a dependency on Ryan and/or Sexton being fit. Had Ryan this year or Sexton last year played 80 mins in the final I don't think anyone would doubt Leinster's nerve.

Less of an issue too with leaders like POM, Beirne and Henderson in the squad for Ireland.
 
I'd still have the Boks as favourites to beat Scotland and some. Not having a 85% goal kicker might be an issue with opposition who have a strong pack. Against Scotland they just need a 10 who can kick to the corner. I don't think Scotland have the pack to stop what comes next. Other than France/Ireland not many teams can or will.

Agree the Boks pack will come out on top and they will probably use the same kicking game that they used against the Lions. High ball to Duhan, regain possession etc. until they can kick to the corner. Rinse and repeat. Throw in scrum penalties, Scotland players carded for repeated infringements inside their own 22 and it's all set up for Boks W.
 
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I think playing keep ball is way too effective against Scotland for them to have high hopes. Even Georgia caused them trouble in the first half, it's a question I don't believe they've answered yet and they're probably up against the two top teams in world rugby for boring you to death if they have to.
 
I think playing keep ball is way too effective against Scotland for them to have high hopes. Even Georgia caused them trouble in the first half, it's a question I don't believe they've answered yet and they're probably up against the two top teams in world rugby for boring you to death if they have to.
That's harsh on Tonga…
 
Our last game v Scotland was pretty weird. We played poorly, left points out there and Scotland had a way better first half, but we still won comfortably. All that to say I think Scotland will need to absolutely ambush us to win. Not impossible, but pretty improbable.

My mild take is that Wales will top their group, and what a ridiculous soft group it is.

Don't think the Argies have a shot at winning anything, but they could definitely scalp a few sides. Should top their pool
 
Talk that Danty has a hamstring injury and will miss (at least) the NZ game - that significantly damaged their chances of topping the pool
 

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