Rugby World Cup 2011 Official Game

[jack6161]

I hope this is not the case as it would be a massive cop out. Going from over 70 teams in 08 to 20 is not really representative of the advances in games consoles. The gameplay would need to be out of this world and even if it was that would only bring it up to the standard of Jonah Lomu rugby which at least had 28 teams. The games need to develop over the years not deteriorate. Rugby fans have waited a long time for a next gen game to play and if this lack of teams is true it's going to be a massive disappointment. All the forums have asked for more advanced manager options, Seven's tournaments and more licenced teams. Has all this simply been ignored in the interest of making a fast buck out of the 6 week rugby fans who only watch the World Cups and at the expense of real rugby fans.

I say again, Football World Cup 2010 was not a cop out and that has less teams that everyone would have liked. If you haven't noticed either, Rugby 08 is made by EA, who have lots and lots of money. Rugby World Cup is made by HB, who have not as much money. This means that the game will not be as good as it would be with lots and lots of money. If this game sells then they can make another one after it, and when that comes around I'm sure you and all the others will be complaining on forums at the lack of a certain element in the game to be released. Be happy that one is coming out at all and stop whining.

 

[Barryparle]

I wish people would stop comparing it to 08 and just think of it as a new start to the "Rugby" franchise - Rugby 08 came out 4 years ago, and was on none of the platforms that RWC2011 is being released on - why should they be similar?
I know that HB has made both, but there's been such a large gap in between the two that technology and software will have changed so much it's pretty much starting from scratch

It's not a "step down" - it's a new start.

This is a step down. They don't need to start from scratch, it's the same company. Fifa, pro evo, madden, Codemasters Cricket, both basketball franchises etc etc. None of them have had these kinds of issues. I'll happily eat my words if they start announcing the inclusion of league teams, I simply wont be happy if they have no more than International teams.

TRF_Cymro - I have read the last 5 pages of quotes and all I see is you sticking up for HB Studios without any real reason and abusing other Forum members for not knowing the reasons for not creating PC versions of the game (very dull). Do you work for HB Studios? If not maybe you should thinking about demanding more out of them. They clearly could do better than their initial announcement suggests. Let's hope they do realease more features in the coming months.

 

[TRF_Cymro]

This is a step down. They don't need to start from scratch, it's the same company. Fifa, pro evo, madden, Codemasters Cricket, both basketball franchises etc etc. None of them have had these kinds of issues. I'll happily eat my words if they start announcing the inclusion of league teams, I simply wont be happy if they have no more than International teams.

TRF_Cymro - I have read the last 5 pages of quotes and all I see is you sticking up for HB Studios without any real reason and abusing other Forum members for not knowing the reasons for not creating PC versions of the game (very dull). Do you work for HB Studios? If not maybe you should thinking about demanding more out of them. They clearly could do better than their initial announcement suggests. Let's hope they do realease more features in the coming months.

Ah another member who freely feels the necessary to have a dig at staff members.

Look her sunshine, explanation of piracy of the PC game was difficult for one or two members to understand for the rest its not. Clearly the members that were involved need to be informed and were done so and not only by me (quite dull not to see that also). Read the rest of the thread . Also abusing forum members, hardly. You might want to go back to TRF_Saints post about staff and the words used to often by the new guys coming onto this forum for their slice of the cake and then clearing off afterwards. I don't have to demand anything off HB, im grateful like most that a next gen rugby console game is coming out. Maybe you should too.

Stop hating hater.

 

[Teh Mite]

This is a step down. They don't need to start from scratch, it's the same company. Fifa, pro evo, madden, Codemasters Cricket, both basketball franchises etc etc. None of them have had these kinds of issues. I'll happily eat my words if they start announcing the inclusion of league teams, I simply wont be happy if they have no more than International teams.

TRF_Cymro - I have read the last 5 pages of quotes and all I see is you sticking up for HB Studios without any real reason and abusing other Forum members for not knowing the reasons for not creating PC versions of the game (very dull). Do you work for HB Studios? If not maybe you should thinking about demanding more out of them. They clearly could do better than their initial announcement suggests. Let's hope they do realease more features in the coming months.

By your reckoning BMW didn't need to design the E90 M3 from scratch because they made a different model M3 (E30) in the 1980's?

 

[jack6161]

This is a step down. They don't need to start from scratch, it's the same company. Fifa, pro evo, madden, Codemasters Cricket, both basketball franchises etc etc. None of them have had these kinds of issues. I'll happily eat my words if they start announcing the inclusion of league teams, I simply wont be happy if they have no more than International teams.

TRF_Cymro - I have read the last 5 pages of quotes and all I see is you sticking up for HB Studios without any real reason and abusing other Forum members for not knowing the reasons for not creating PC versions of the game (very dull). Do you work for HB Studios? If not maybe you should thinking about demanding more out of them. They clearly could do better than their initial announcement suggests. Let's hope they do realease more features in the coming months.

I'm sorry Barry but you just made me crack up. You've read the last 5 pages of quotes and you haven't managed to notice that it is not the same company. You also haven't managed to notice that Fifa, pro evo, madden, codemasters cricket, both basketball franchises etc etc are made by companies that have lots of money and are able to contribute that money to make their games even better such as EA. Also if you didn't realize, games like Fifa have been going on for years, which means more money is made from them, which means they can be improved. Rugby 08 was made by EA who have money, not by HB Studios. This new rugby game coming out is the START of a new series by a new company. It is not a step down at all, again I will compare it to fifa, was Football World Cup a step down from Fifa 11? No. It was just a different type of game. You've come onto this forum, made 2 posts complaining about this game not having what YOU want it to have, with no facts to back it up.

 

[Teh Mite]

Rugby 08 was made by HB (built on the then present Fifa game engine) and Published by EA.

This is 505s first foray into rugby gaming as a publisher.

 

[jack6161]

My point being this game does not have EA involved so it does not have their input of money to improve the game.

 

[TVH11]

One could argue that 08 was a step down from 06, in the fact all it offered was updated rosters and a new drop-goal system only released on ps2 (when ps3 and 360 were the current gen consoles already).
At least with RWC11, we're getting something thats been done from scratch (I presume you can't use the same stuff from ps2 to ps3). All credit has to go to HB for deciding to create this game with no financial backing but their own (because everyone knows the rugby is a niche sport in comparison to "bigger" sports such as soccer and american football). And also 505 must be applauded for backing this game, considering the "financial risks". If you knock something before its even showcased then its not gonna work. Best thing to do is sit back, wait for "substantial" info to be released, then fire at all cylinders. If the gameplay is junk (i have faith that it wont be) then everyone will have the right to complain. But until the time we play it, i think saying that only 20 teams (confirmed so far must be noted) isn't the best thing to say.

I LOVE BANTER (only when its respectful though)

 

[GreenyBoii]

One could argue that 08 was a step down from 06, in the fact all it offered was updated rosters and a new drop-goal system only released on ps2 (when ps3 and 360 were the current gen consoles already).
At least with RWC11, we're getting something thats been done from scratch (I presume you can't use the same stuff from ps2 to ps3). All credit has to go to HB for deciding to create this game with no financial backing but their own (because everyone knows the rugby is a niche sport in comparison to "bigger" sports such as soccer and american football). And also 505 must be applauded for backing this game, considering the "financial risks". If you knock something before its even showcased then its not gonna work. Best thing to do is sit back, wait for "substantial" info to be released, then fire at all cylinders. If the gameplay is junk (i have faith that it wont be) then everyone will have the right to complain. But until the time we play it, i think saying that only 20 teams (confirmed so far must be noted) isn't the best thing to say.

I LOVE BANTER (only when its respectful though)

I just wish people would listen to posts like this. They don't understand that having a thread where every-other post is some idiot moaning about how only 20 teams will be in the game and " it's not going to be worth £40" or "that's £40 HB won't get from me". This is stupid as had they taken the time to look it is in fact £33 from GAME, but that's not the point. The point is it's not constructive in anyway to HB and if they carry on then HB may lose faith in this type of community. If they do make another game (hopefully) then they may decide they can't be bothered to look at all this hate mail type stuff and just not have a forum, consequently we don't have as much of a say as we would all like. By slagging HB off you may only be making it worse for yourselves!

 

[faketaffy6]

By your reckoning BMW didn't need to design the E90 M3 from scratch because they made a different model M3 (E30) in the 1980's?

Barrys point exactly. The e30 M3 was brilliant, and equally the resulting models. But every new model of 3 series was bigger, better with more of everything.

By only having the WC teams in it is like the e90 M3 being the predecceser to the e30.

 

[pinky66]

Yea its a shame the scope is so small, but I guess its understandable. HB don't have the resources they had when working with EA so they have no choice but be more focused. The best way to do this is reduce the number of teams and features and focus on gameplay. In the end, that could be a good thing.

If they nail the gameplay we can look forward to a more complete game in 2013/2014 with more bells and whistles.

However, my guess based on previous games is rugby world cup 2011 will disappoint more than enthrall.

 

[Teh Mite]

Barrys point exactly. The e30 M3 was brilliant, and equally the resulting models. But every new model of 3 series was bigger, better with more of everything.

By only having the WC teams in it is like the e90 M3 being the predecceser to the e30.

It's the same IN NAME ONLY. The car is completely different.

Equal comparison would be between Fifa 95 and Fifa 11.

OR:
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They may share names, but they don't share any DNA.

 

[best_fullback]

Heres an interesting fact, though I'm not 100% if it totally correct, but I just read on another forum about AFL Live 2011 that the budget that Big Ant had for the entire game was the same amount EA spent on the just the menus in Fifa. Another blog however said the budget was more like 10% of what Fifa has, and the game was built from scratch (new engine etc). Very impressive considering.

However, it really puts it in perspective that our expectations for emerging ***les should be a lot more realistic than what we expect of the EA juggernauts et al.

 

[TVH11]

If the budgets are correct, then that is crazy stuff. Especially the total for afl was the same as the menu's =O

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[Teh Mite]

TBF, Fifas menus include that whole virtual arena.

 

[TVH11]

Ah well that changes everything. Theres a lot of work with arena,probably more work than they did on rll, but thats another arguement. Bring on rwc11

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[msmith007]

Really good news with the world cup being licensed. Looking forward to more announcements. Keep up the good work.

 

[MoggsyBoy81]

I just wish people would listen to posts like this. They don't understand that having a thread where every-other post is some idiot moaning about how only 20 teams will be in the game and " it's not going to be worth £40" or "that's £40 HB won't get from me". This is stupid as had they taken the time to look it is in fact £33 from GAME, but that's not the point. The point is it's not constructive in anyway to HB and if they carry on then HB may lose faith in this type of community. If they do make another game (hopefully) then they may decide they can't be bothered to look at all this hate mail type stuff and just not have a forum, consequently we don't have as much of a say as we would all like. By slagging HB off you may only be making it worse for yourselves!

I disagree. Constructive criticism or feedback is good for the game. You can't expect to attach to a forum and everyone be blowing kisses all night. I can understand both sides. Rugby is a game people are really passionate about and I mean really passionate (not just getting paid to make a game passionate!). The comments on here whether they be wrapped up nicely is a massive benefit to HB. In some respects its the first round of QA!.

Overall I think its fantastic and to a point revolutionary that HB have had this forum. The fact that hardcore fans can feed into the game making process is amazing. Its something which will probably happen more often in the future. I very much appreciate it. However, you can't expect people to sugar coat things all the time.

I've made my comments about the whole 20 teams thing. I really want this to be a game that I can purchase and use as much as I've used 08 (which co-incedently is loading up now!). Lets be honest here, rugby is not the biggest selling game. If they're going to get it right then its going to take a lot of work. Going on whats been released so far its not really amazing. As it stands, I'll rent before I buy. IF clubs are involved I'll pre-order straight away.

 

[Toko_11]

Finally!! cant wait to beat the world with Georgia!!!!

 

[Zoso]

One question: the game will be published only in english or also in different languages? For example the game will be translated into italian in Italy? Commentary included?