Rugby World Cup 2011 Official Game

[nato]

This is undetermined at this point.

I dont see why it would be undetermined because they got the full licence to produce the game?

 

[TRF C A Iversen]

I dont see why it would be undetermined because they got the full licence to produce the game?

It is completely unconfirmed at this point.

HB have not confirmed the licenses within the game.

Sidhe certainly appear to firmly be of the belief at this point that no game being released, World Cup or otherwise, will be able to feature the New Zealand and Australian official teams, except of course their own ***le.

Until we hear more from HB, this means that the only determined thing is that the license for the world cup is indeed in the game. We are all aware that in some cricket games that the World Cup license included player names for all players in the World Cup. That still does not mean that this is the case in Rugby at this point.

I hope it is the case, but once again, it's all undetermined.

 

[skittles]

I dont see why it would be undetermined because they got the full licence to produce the game?

Because teams can sell their individual rights to whomever they please, and withhold them just the same. It all depends on the agreements in place; if I remember correctly, some cricket games in the past have had correct names for the Ashes or for the World Cup but not for general game modes, because the company making the game got the rights for a particular tournament but not for the entire thing.

 

[TRF C A Iversen]

Because teams can sell their individual rights to whomever they please, and withhold them just the same. It all depends on the agreements in place; if I remember correctly, some cricket games in the past have had correct names for the Ashes or for the World Cup but not for general game modes, because the company making the game got the rights for a particular tournament but not for the entire thing.

Yes, it's a matter of wait and see, both teams have obviously been trying their best to get all they can into their respective games, and we can have no doubt that they both would love to please the fans, but let's just see what they've been able to incorporate. With any luck, we'll all be a little more in the know very soon.

 

[TVH11]

PES has champions League licence, but only has specific teams licensed. Its not be all end all though. What it will lack in licensing, one can only hope that it compensated in gameplay (a point that HB have stated they saw as the priority - see HB AJ blog)

 

[navi]

who really cares about the number of teams. all we should be caring about is that there is finally going to be a rugby game on 360 and ps3 !

I agree with fast10, we should be happy that finally we will have a PS3 version of rugby, its been years since a rugby game has been released.

 

[JJR]

What i would Expect from this game and what needs to be changed from 08'-

-Slowed down gameplay and better realism in terms of player movements and animations.
-Obviously a lot better visuals and Graphics.
-Improved realism in terms of the contact area; eg. if Alberts runs into Januarie he will either run over him or be able to gain ground through a strong leg drive. A sense that energy is being tranferred from player to player in the collisions. In 08' a guy could be running full pace and stop dead without the tackler even looking as if he has put in any effort. Those dive tackles from 08'...sesh, hope they are gone or have been worked on; diving when flat footed like that, was not realistic at all, very arcade like.
-A lot better/realistic player ratings/attributes. In 08' BJ Botha and D. Carstens, both springbok props were rated around 50...why they don't ask us to help them with rating players and identifying their real attributes and strengths is beyond me.
-Be able to slot penalties from 60 metres with the freaks like F. Steyn.
-A lot better display of talents; eg. we don't really get a true sense of who is big and strong in 08'.
-Slow down the scrum slightly, eg. the speed we were able to turn the scrum was unrealistic. Fifa slowed down the game from 10-11 and we could see subtle animations and player movements which are accurate in terms of weight of passes and not being able to shoot accurately when off balance, etc.
-More animations and better realism. Eg. more than one step animation.A timed handoff and a push one. Smother gameplay, eg. animations for a step can was used and then suddenly sprung back into top speed (that is how it was in 08'); didn't flow realistically if u know what i mean.
-Better specific player personalities, eg. Habana can't step, but swerves, whereas Gio Aplon can change direction without a fuss.

In Genreal a lot better visuals, more accurate/realistic animations and also hope for it to be a lot easier to distinguish between individuals in terms of what they look like and how they play on the field. Eg. Deysel will be running over people "Bounce" and B.Basson will be fleet of foot and trying to round people. This might not make sense to some; but Fifa 11's personality + ,thing they did is kinda what i am talking about. Smoother/Slower gameplay, that plays at the pace of a real game. The speed Habana was running and stepping like in 08' seemed like he was as light as a feather; not realistic feeling of weight. Hope game is Great, got my Pre-order in at BT-Games and also got a couple more as gifts for friends. Gonna be Great. Thanks HB and 505 Games.

 

[DanRees21]

New Zealand and Australia licensing

Am i right in assuming that there will be no licensing for New Zealand and Australia? As sidhe has already announced that they have EXCLUSIVE licensing of these 2 countries.

 

[GreenyBoii]

Am i right in assuming that there will be no licensing for New Zealand and Australia? As sidhe has already announced that they have EXCLUSIVE licensing of these 2 countries.

If you'd bothered to look at the last page you would know. Or do they not have a school in your local valley to teach you how to read.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

If you'd bothered to look at the last page you would know. Or do they not have a school in your local valley to teach you how to read.

Easy, tiger!
It was only a question


In answer: We don't know yet! That's what Sidhe are saying, but we'll just have to wait and see what happens

 

[GreenyBoii]

Easy, tiger!
It was only a question


In answer: We don't know yet! That's what Sidhe are saying, but we'll just have to wait and see what happens

Maybe I was a tad harsh but it annoys me when people repeat a question that was answered twice on the last page. And to all welsh people I may have caused offence to I'm sorry.

 

[TRF_Cymro]

Maybe I was a tad harsh but it annoys me when people repeat a question that was answered twice on the last page. And to all welsh people I may have caused offence to I'm sorry.

Taking the mick out of the Valleys is often acceptable but really we like taking the mick out of North Wales more

 

[nik]

Am i right in assuming that there will be no licensing for New Zealand and Australia? As sidhe has already announced that they have EXCLUSIVE licensing of these 2 countries.

I am speculating here but I think they might have all licensed teams when playing in World Cup mode because the World Cup in licensed. So I think we might see real player names, faces, kits for the All Blacks and Wallabies. In other modes such as tri-nations (possibly wont be called trinations - instead 3 nations) the teams wont be licensed. This was the case in the last Brian Lara cricket game right where the ICC World Cup was licensed so teams and players were real, but not in other modes.

It all depends on what licensing contract says. Also the ICC is not the IRB so it may or may not be the same case as Brian Lara cricket.

One thing is for sure - the NZRU is very protective of their All Blacks Brand (and probably same with other unions). They will to go any length to make sure All Blacks brand cannot be used by any other company to make money unless they get a piece of the cake.

 

[Gay-Guy]

I am speculating here but I think they might have all licensed teams when playing in World Cup mode because the World Cup in licensed. So I think we might see real player names, faces, kits for the All Blacks and Wallabies. In other modes such as tri-nations (possibly wont be called trinations - instead 3 nations) the teams wont be licensed. This was the case in the last Brian Lara cricket game right where the ICC World Cup was licensed so teams and players were real, but not in other modes.

It all depends on what licensing contract says. Also the ICC is not the IRB so it may or may not be the same case as Brian Lara cricket.

One thing is for sure - the NZRU is very protective of their All Blacks Brand (and probably same with other unions). They will to go any length to make sure All Blacks brand cannot be used by any other company to make money unless they get a piece of the cake.

This might explain why HB are only doing the world cup....since they missed out on licenses...the RWC is the only way they can get it.

 

[TRF C A Iversen]

I am speculating here but I think they might have all licensed teams when playing in World Cup mode because the World Cup in licensed. So I think we might see real player names, faces, kits for the All Blacks and Wallabies. In other modes such as tri-nations (possibly wont be called trinations - instead 3 nations) the teams wont be licensed. This was the case in the last Brian Lara cricket game right where the ICC World Cup was licensed so teams and players were real, but not in other modes.

It all depends on what licensing contract says. Also the ICC is not the IRB so it may or may not be the same case as Brian Lara cricket.

One thing is for sure - the NZRU is very protective of their All Blacks Brand (and probably same with other unions). They will to go any length to make sure All Blacks brand cannot be used by any other company to make money unless they get a piece of the cake.

It's fine to speculate and guess, but absolutely nothing is confirmed in relation to licensing for this game right now aside from the Rugby World Cup tournament itself. I'm sure soon enough we'll see what the story is. The Brian Lara Cricket scenario has been discussed (over and over again) in this thread. The general consensus of opinion at this point is that it bears no relevance to what may or may not happen with this rugby ***le. This is a different scenario.

Sidhe have stated that they firmly believe that no other company can make a game with official licensing of the All Blacks or Australia, world cup or not.

No-one is saying that what you speculate about will not happen or that it will. Most people are aware that we just do not know at this point of time and anything is possible.

 

[Sam Hanning]

Surely the NZRU aren't dumb. New Zealand is hosting this world cup so New Zealand have to be in it! I'm sure that the NZRU will do everything in their power to Put the All Blacks into both games. It's kind of like HB are FIFA and Sidhe is PES. Obviously FIFA is way bigger and high class but Sidhe is a local company. So you want your name brandished all over the 3rd largest sporting event in the world but you also want to support your local company. Forgive my youthful ignorance but there must be some kind of loophole to get the All Blacks into both games. I don't see why not

 

[GreenyBoii]

Taking the mick out of the Valleys is often acceptable but really we like taking the mick out of North Wales more

I agree North Wales is crap. My mum forced me to go on holiday for a long weekend there, it was really boring! South Wales is all right but as Rhod Gilbert put it: "It's not **** any more, but it's not Paris either"

 

[BigTen]

After trawling through this massive thread here are some of my thoughts.

I would rather have superior gameplay over anything else be it licensing, visuals, huge array of teams. The gameplay keeps me coming back for me all of the rest are just nice to have. However having only 20 teams would be disappointing for me. I like the variety that comes with playing against different teams.

Only having 20 teams would strike me as being lazy. In terms of developing a game creating new teams is relatively easy development work. Even if they made up 20 "club" sides from each hemisphere and had seperate north and south leagues and then a combined master league it would not take a massive portion of the development budget and would add a layer of lastability to the game. And without any licensing issues.

I suspect that additional teams will be announced closer to the release. It would be foolish to release a game with only 20 teams. However another option would be if they had the licensing rights to all world cup teams and players (from '87 to '07) then this would add further teams to the 20.

Obviously a team editor (and player/competition editor/creator) would negate this and would allow the user to create far more teams.

Licensing is a bit of a killer for the gamer. It will generally end up with just one company making rugby games and takes development $$$ away from the game. I know that it is a necessary evil and is here to stay.

It terms of having to start the development of the rugby game genre from scratch I feel that this is a bit of a myth. No-one reinvents the wheel again and I would be very disappointed if there is a backwards step to the previous games that have been developed. The developers at the very worse have seen what works and what doesn't. They would all be looking to make big improvements. Even with a smallish budget there is scope to do this.

At the end of the day when this game goes on sale I will make a decision based on the cost and reviews of the game whether I will purchase or not. I am intending on purchasing the game but only if I feel the quality is up to scratch. And at the moment if there are only 20 sides and no way of adding to that number than I suspect that I may choose to not pay. I hope that HB takes that onboard and make the decision to add more. I hope that they have already added more sides.

That is all (for now).

 

[best_fullback]

I would rather have superior gameplay over anything else be it licensing, visuals, huge array of teams. The gameplay keeps me coming back for me all of the rest are just nice to have. However having only 20 teams would be disappointing for me. I like the variety that comes with playing against different teams.

Most contradictory opening statement ever?

At the end of the day when this game goes on sale I will make a decision based on the cost and reviews of the game whether I will purchase or not. I am intending on purchasing the game but only if I feel the quality is up to scratch. And at the moment if there are only 20 sides and no way of adding to that number than I suspect that I may choose to not pay. I hope that HB takes that onboard and make the decision to add more. I hope that they have already added more sides.

That is all (for now).

How can you go from saying you would rather have good gameplay than licensing, lots of teams etc to 'I will not buy this game if it only has 20 teams, regardless of anything else'?

 

[GreenyBoii]

Here are a couple of songs I suggest you take advice from:




And here's one some people will relate to HB and their lack of info. I think the wait is what keeps us going though, but for everyone else: