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Review of England’s 6 Nations Performance

http://www.therugbypaper.co.uk/features/columnists/nick-cain/8445/nick-cain-change-now-or-else/

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England's front five is mobile but underpowered against the big beasts fielded by teams like Wales, South Africa, and a full-strength Australia. The scrum is not solid on its own put-in, or disruptive on the opposition's, and the lineout return was the lowest in the tournament. Mako Vunipola has to get fitter, and they need another tighthead to challenge Dan Cole, who was rarely dominant. Lancaster has to find a Bakkies Botha-style big unit like Dave Attwood, to pack alongside either Joe Launchbury, or Geoff Parling, or Courtney Lawes. A pairing of two athlete locks has helped England's breakdown, but leaves them light in the tight.
2. Find a True No.7
Like everyone, Lancaster has great regard for Chris Robshaw, but England must fast-track a horrible, quick, streetwise No.7 for 2015 before it's too late. The Six Nations captain cannot be faulted for attitude, commitment, work-rate, tackle-count, or a good pair of hands. But the Test arena is ruthless, and the evidence from Cardiff is that Robshaw must fight it out with Tom Wood and Tom Croft for the No.6 shirt. Robshaw is not a destructive ball-winning fetcher, and, even though the English forwards were on the back foot, he does not have the speed to do what Justin Tipuric does for Wales.
3. Pick backs with Pace
Brad Barritt is the Robshaw of the backline, but picking him in a line-up which also includes his Saracens buddies Owen Farrell and Alex Goode, leaves England short of pace and creativity. Nor is Barritt a foil for similarly crash-bang Manu Tuilagi. After impressing against the Scots, Billy Twelvetrees deserved another start against Italy to see if he could provide a spark inside Tuilagi, freeing him from the burden of being England's sole attacking carrier. A back three containing two full-backs, neither of whom are wing-fast, compounds the lack of Cuthbert-style strike speed, and there was a strong case for May and Wade coming in for Ashton and Goode well before the second-half debacle unfolded at the Millennium Stadium.

Can't see a whole lot that I can disagree with in that article. In fact it sums up how I see the situation very nicely, albeit the editor has, expectedly, gone a bit overboard with the ***le.
 
Dave Seymour for England :D

Kvesic and Fraser > Seymour

Poor old Andy Saul isn't going to get a look in!

Also, during Bath's Amlin QF against SF, Dewi Morris said that Lancaster had told him that he wants to look at people he hasn't before, and that he would be leaving 5 or 6 players that are known-quantities at home.
No reason do disbelieve it.
 
Crap line of argument: Seymour is better than those two and isn't exactly 55yrs old - he could very easily make the next two world cups.
Don't pick youth just for the sake of it - he's bested every 7 he's played against this season, stats wise and on the pitch.
 
Of all that was listed in the quote it is line out dominance (or lack of dominance) that is going to hurt us the most. Both Youngs and Hartley weren't at their best during the 6N when it came to the set piece and there is little use in having someone with a big boot at 10 if you can't be certain you'll win your own line out. This is something that is true of all levels of rugby, from Saturday morning beer teams to school rugby and all the way up to professional games the line out provides the attacking platform the scum used to and as such is, in my opinion, more important.

The problem for England is our hookers. Parling is an excellent jumper and line out tactician and Launchbury, Wood, Croft and even Lawes all jump well so whatever pack combo we have there are always going to be good jumpers. Either we sacrifice Young's loose play for Hartley's more reliable throwing or hope that Youngs keeps getting better. It isn't as if he's been throwing every ball to the oppo but he certainly isn't quite good enough in that department yet.

Also (and I say this just so I don't break the habit), backs with speed I hear you say? Elliot Daly...
 
I'd agree that we need a hooker with a laser throw, and I'm not a fan of Hartley anymore, who is there in the prem?
Buchanan has a pretty good throw doesn't he? I'm not a fan of Joe Gray at all, yes he's good at throwing, but he is poor around the park imo.
I've seen enough improvement from Youngs in a short period that I think his service is going to keep on improving.

For most of our selection issues, we have the solutions in the premiership. We just need to make the changes.
 
Who was in the squad when Youngs started and Hartley was banned in November? Whoever it was (and I really should remember) I'd expect them to go to Argentine and would be expected to get some decent game time. Youngs is the future, if he keeps following the trajectory he's currently on he'll peak nicely in time for 2015, but there are a lot of games between now and the World Cup that we've going to be vulnerable in while he's still improving.
 
David Paice was called up in November, can't see him being required though. He's 30... not much "upside", as the NFL'ers like to call it.
 
Rob Webber had a strong game for Bath yesterday. He was in/around the England squad when at wasps/before lengthy injury layoff(s?). Don't know a massive amount him though to be honest, e.g. How's his darts?



There does seem to be a lack of real quality hookers in England at the moment thought - our choices are all good club hookers but when you compare them to the likes of Du Plessis/Strauss et al. they don't stack up.
I hope Jamie George gets a lot more game time when Smit leaves Sarries, he looked very promising last season.
I know I harp on about Sale players but I've been stupidly impressed with Tommy Taylor this season - he's bulked up a lot and he carries very well, plays like a 7 (converted to hooker from there) and his darts are decent and improving. Potentially one for the future.

There's Buchanan at Quins, but I'm not a massive fine. Whitehead at Chiefs, but he's not int. quality IMO. Who else is there in the prem? Hooker isn't really a position I pay a massive amount of attention to to be honest.
 
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Buchanan looks the closest to me, he's a better thrower than Hartley or Youngs from what I've seen. His throws certainly have more velocity.
Webber is hard to judge, I never rated him at Wasps personally.
I haven't seen enough of Jaime George to comment, and Tommy Taylor needs to put on a lot of weight.
If Tom Lindsay can get his throwing right, then he is in contention too, he is a phenomenal ball carrier.
 
I would stick with Youngs for now, but not with a great deal of happiness. Webber strikes me as a meh player at international level. Buchanan was out of his depth today but has the potential to come good.

What I would really love is for Mike Haywood to get lots of gametime. If Dylan Hartley could feel suddenly homesick for New Zealand and sever contract, that would be fantastic.
 
I love the positive talk and if we ran the england team i do think wed do a better job BUT i can't really see Lancaster making the changes we need to develop into a top side. I think there are a few problems that we need to address that are all talked about above but i think as well Lancaster has used too much youth and he should have looked at a few experienced players who will be around 33ish by the world cup.

I want players in the squad that the younger players can learn off and we can bring in who we can rely on. But at the same time i really think we need a re-think of tactics to.

New wings - May/ Wade
New Hooker - bring Buchanan/ Webber/ Gray/ Lindsay/ Whitehead into the training camp and have a look at them all
New grunty Locks - Attwood and..... can't really think of any others, Kruis?
New backrow make up....6. Wood/Robshaw/Croft 7. Fraser seems the favourite but i personally don't know 8. Morgan/ Vuinipola
Old Props - We need to cap a few older props who have been there are done it to teach the younger ones the darker arts!

Oh and a new attack coach from the Southen Hem because for some reason and i don't know why our style of rugby just doesn't have the space finding the SH do, don't know how else to explain that
 
What I would really love is for Mike Haywood to get lots of gametime. If Dylan Hartley could feel suddenly homesick for New Zealand and sever contract, that would be fantastic.

I'm a big fan of Mikey Haywood but his throwing hasn't been the same since he had a bad shoulder injury last season. This year his lineout work has been very hit and miss - at times borderline liability.

He needs a summer of rest and rehab so he can come back all guns blazing next season. Personally I'm of the firm belief he has the potential to be better than Hartley as his work in the loose and around the pitch can be phenomenal. The only place I'm not sure how they match up is in the scrum.

I don't think hooker is a position England need to worry about for the future. Looks to be plenty of talent around - I especially like the look of Tom Lindsay and Jamie George.
 
I think Attwood and Slater are the two new locks we should be looking at, I'm fairly excited by both tbh.
Slater seems to work very well in tandem with Parling (not to mention Youngs and Cole) for Leicester.
I really think Tom Lindsay could be great if he can sort his throwing out, he's in a similar position to Youngs in that he has only been playing at hooker for a couple of years, so I am fully confident that he can.
 
I was very unimpressed with Slater's discipline yesterday. There were two really dumb penalties that gave kicking opportunities to Toulon, one of which he could have easily received a yellow card for.

Twebby: Thanks, hadn't really noticed the erratic throwing this season - it's been fine when I'd watched him, and certainly looked fine last season... big shame, because he definitely has the ability in the loose. Hopefully he can kick on, fix that, stop dislocating his shoulder and make his case.
 

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