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RBS 6 Nations - England vs Wales - 25/02/2012, 16:00

Your not one eyed and I don't think it was aimed at you.

It was more the everyone hates England related post etc. When England fans are confident we get called arrogant and everyone hates us.

I don't agree on form that Wales has that many better players than England. Personaly I feel it would be about 50/50 or not far off. However being honest taking current form I can't support a case against the welsh players at the moment.

Maybe I'm a tad paranoid but can't help thinking your referring to one (or two) of my earlier posts. It's all meant tongue in cheek I can assure you but for some reason my phone has problems with the emojis so it seems like I'm serious. Apart from that though you'll be hard pressed to find a post from me where i've said anything other than Saturday will be extremely difficult.

PS I hate you guys (those damn emojis!!!!)
 
The big thing about tomorrows game I think is whether or not Wales can keep 15 men on the field. I feel that if we can keep the cards in the refs pocket then we should go on to win.

Personally, I hope the game is close with Wales taking it in the last 10 minutes although I expect the game to be well and truely wrapped up halfway through the second half. That is only if we perform to the standard the media expects us to.
 
Maybe I'm a tad paranoid but can't help thinking your referring to one (or two) of my earlier posts. It's all meant tongue in cheek I can assure you but for some reason my phone has problems with the emojis so it seems like I'm serious. Apart from that though you'll be hard pressed to find a post from me where i've said anything other than Saturday will be extremely difficult.

PS I hate you guys (those damn emojis!!!!)

Don't worry about it. Compared to how they will be in my local tomo as pretty much the only Englishman. Now do I wear my white shirt or the black one that's the question or play it safe and go Saints. The black one upsets my welsh mates more than the others to get the arrogant blood English comments.
 
I don't think wales are as good as they are made out to be. The general opinion in the Scotland Game was they only really started performing at the end of the second half, and of course they were going to perform, scotland were down to 13. Don't get me wrong, they do have a very good side but I think some of the predictions that england will get thrashed are quite wrong I think it will be a close game. It was a close game a fortnight ago between Wales and Scotland at Home, now you're going away to a side who had a very similar game bar two differences England were at Murrayfield, and there were no cards.
 
I don't think wales are as good as they are made out to be. The general opinion in the Scotland Game was they only really started performing at the end of the second half, and of course they were going to perform, scotland were down to 13. Don't get me wrong, they do have a very good side but I think some of the predictions that england will get thrashed are quite wrong I think it will be a close game. It was a close game a fortnight ago between Wales and Scotland at Home, now you're going away to a side who had a very similar game bar two differences England were at Murrayfield, and there were no cards.

Apart from the odd over exuberant post we all understand how difficult today will be. If anyone is over-egging the pudding as far as Wales is concerned its the English media... the age old practice of building people up to be knocked down all the harder.

Wales are currently a side full of confidence, a gameplan which compliments our personnel, balance all over the park and most importantly the majority of the team are young and will only improve over the next four years.
 
Yes but the yellow cards were caused by welsh pressure, you could argue that the trys could/would have been scored in those two incidents.It was the same in 2010,Scotland push the panic button from welsh pressure and commit professional fouls in aid to stop our attack.For the record scotland played very well throughout i thought apart from that crazy 15-20 mins,of course! ;)
I dont think wales are S.H beaters quite yet,i would fancy us against the boks though. Theres only so many times they can hold out by a few points against us lol
 
Yes but the yellow cards were caused by welsh pressure, you could argue that the trys could/would have been scored in those two incidents.It was the same in 2010,Scotland push the panic button from welsh pressure and commit professional fouls in aid to stop our attack.For the record scotland played very well throughout i thought apart from that crazy 15-20 mins,of course! ;)

The 2010 game is a pointless comparison, injuries to key players, one which could have resulted in a player being paralysed would rattle most teams, then one stupid yellow and a bit of play acting for the other.

In the last game they coped more than well enough with the pressure in the first half, more stupidity and rabbit in the headlight syndrome resulted in the yellows than pressure.
 
This is gonna be huge. Welsh in Twickenham...The English squad has downgraded progressively throughout the last decade really...from 2003 til now.
Wales up to the standards so far, and England struggling against Italy...oh well, we'll see.
 
I don't think wales are as good as they are made out to be. The general opinion in the Scotland Game was they only really started performing at the end of the second half, and of course they were going to perform, scotland were down to 13. Don't get me wrong, they do have a very good side but I think some of the predictions that england will get thrashed are quite wrong I think it will be a close game. It was a close game a fortnight ago between Wales and Scotland at Home, now you're going away to a side who had a very similar game bar two differences England were at Murrayfield, and there were no cards.

Not trying to present myself as one-eyed (if thats the right phrase), but i do think we are as good as we are made out to be. Currently, i think we are 3/4th best in the world. You saffers were very lucky in the WC that Barnesy didn't take to the Video Ref, Wales completely dominated SA in that game. In the Scotland game we played way below par, and i can assure you Wales will be 30-35% better than that today, although Scotland played out of their skins and deserve great credit for that. You mentioned that the Yellow allowed us to cruise ahead, very true. But we scored a try with both 15, and Scotland resorted to giving away yellows to stop the momentum, and even if they didn't we would have still beaten them convincingly even though by 14 wasn't tbh. Give Wales Credit where due. England have and always will be a good side, and i think they have a very good chance to win today, as do Wales, and it'll be close. Any Welsh person who suggests a drumming to the English by the Welsh needs to get real. Two eyed view now, only NZ, and SA could realistically do this to them, but very unlikely. OZ can't and they are the team that are not as good as they are made out to be.
 
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Yes I would drop Ashton too the bench. Sharples deserves a chance and Ashton has been playing poorly, blaming it on the ball he receives is just a no go, considering a year ago he didn't wait for the ball to come to him, he went to the ball. Yes it does reek of a viable alternative, but that is my point. Everyone is calling for Croft to be dropped when there is no one in his position at present time who is playing better than him. He might not be on form for his club, but why drop him on that basis, if he plays well for country (which he does) then there is no need to drop him! As well as that, drop him for who? No one at the moment.

England stand a chance, and I think Wales have gotten a bit to over-confident, and could be in for a crashing fall. England are yet to show their attacking potential, of which there is abundance. They expect to come to Twickenham and whoop England, and I don't think that is the way it will pan out at all. I mean for example, look at the RWC quarter-final, England were destined to win and then played badly and lost to France. I think if England can hold Wales at the break down, dominate the scrum, line out and break down, Wales' potent backs will not get the ball they want and need, and the whole Welsh contingent will just come crashing down. I'd be surprised if Farrell had few kicks to do, and I think there may just be a penalty try for Wales collapsing the scrum, or at least 1 yellow card in the game. I still tip England to win it despite them being the under dogs here, partly because I am biased and partly because I can see Wales (if they are to loose at all in the 6 nations) to loose here in Twickenham. I think it will be sort of a re run of England v Ireland last year, and a bitter blow for them. Can't wait for the game, and I am lucky enough to have tickets! :)
You know what I think? I think you're thinking too much! if England can hold Wales at the breakdown,dominate the scrum, line out and breakdown ( that's twice at the breakdown), then it probably means the Wales bus has broken down on the M4!
 
Nope you have not once in recent years in 1994 you ran them close by a few points. Apart from that is is safe to say the All Blacks have been the better team.

As for proving critics wrong, what critics?. Most people here agree that Wales are playing decent rugby and are one of the best Welsh teams for awhile. Many expect Wales to win and with luck the team will still be in form around 2015 yet there is along way to go.




Undoubtedly the AB's have been far superior before now at least, every team has been their ***** really. I don't know why teams don't just beat them consistently, they're only human not gods. Anyway my point was more aimed towards the Springboks, i think it has been 4 years straight that we have lost by 3 points or less, but now with an improved team, surely they will reverse these results at least. But look what i found to prove ya wrong:

Wales 25-26 New Zealand, Millennium Stadium, Cardiff, 20-11-04 - Stephen jones missed like 3 pens

Wales 12-19 New Zealand, Millennium Stadium, Cardiff, 07-11-09 <!-- S ILIN -->
 
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Undoubtedly the AB's have been far superior before now at least, every team has been their ***** really. I don't know why teams don't just beat them consistently, they're only human not gods. Anyway my point was more aimed towards the Springboks, i think it has been 4 years straight that we have lost by 3 points or less, but now with an improved team, surely they will reverse these results at least. But look what i found to prove ya wrong:

Wales 25-26 New Zealand, Millennium Stadium, Cardiff, 20-11-04 - Stephen jones missed like 3 pens

Wales 12-19 New Zealand, Millennium Stadium, Cardiff, 07-11-09 <!-- S ILIN -->

Sorry but that is not what you said is it? Here is what you said We (Wales) have always been there abouts, as SA and NZ know, losing by 1/2 points on consistent occasions,

At what point is a five year gap consistant? The 2004 game was close I will give you that and if you want to split hairs 2009 is not 1/2 points. In the three matches between those two games the AB's scored about 115 points Wales scored 22. So please tell me how you have been consistent in running the AB's close and within 1/2 points then.
 
Just taken my seat in the Commentary Gantry...

Fantastic Day for Rugby...
 
Right then.

BRING IT ONNN!!!!!

See you on t'other side. Cymru am Byth.
 
I thought Strettle was a crap defender?
Saved our bacon then after Hartley let North waltz through the line.

This could be a long day....
 
Halfpenny gets smashed. gets up and shakes it off like a boss !

on another note england causing us some slow ball :(
 
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