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Pro Evolution Soccer 5 Now Out!!

Originally posted by esoj+Oct 26 2005, 07:23 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (esoj @ Oct 26 2005, 07:23 PM)</div>
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@Oct 26 2005, 03:09 PM

My version is about to hit the projector screen (fresh from gp store pick-up).....they also have league for november 11......if this turns out to be untrue again, I will burn HEs studios and sidhe to the ground.
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PES5 looks the goods.....ah what a month...

don't even get me started on CCC (out on the 28th)...I can't even say what it is, I mustn't miss my copy....
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Los unless gp store have some really good info then you will be unhappy as nov 11 is not looking likely. Mid-november -early December seems to be the date most are picking for rugby league 2.

pes5 by all accounts etc seems to be the soccer game to get this year. the ai seems to really have picked up going by what ak 47 has been saying [/b]
I am not holding my breath on the league - that is for damn sure......november 11 for the rugby sorry...and 15th for the league is what they have...they have had to delay becos of Mario's BS no less than FIVE times already...what a ********. Anyway..forget him and that game...I am gonna make it mail order so I don't have to go more than 10 metres for it.

PES 5 is, well, awesome of course.

If you play or watch (or both) soccer - you will love it.

Two game played: three star level
Premiership (English of course) with Arsenal...

1-1 v Everton (conceded 88th minute goal after scoring in the 1st!!!!Yep the first minute!!!)

Then put away Birmingham City 2-0

1 win and a draw...
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Can't be bothered reviewing sorry..no need as out soon everywhere, but, just to say one thing...

ya know how sometimes you dive tackle or fall over or something and you are like damn! get up faster etc!! well///now players given the situation scramble to their feet and back into the action......sweet.

Henry has too goals already!! Wahoooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

Yes I had to change all the teams and stadia names......phew!!! done though.

Bit like editing rugby 2005 - you have to do it if you want the full mccoy experience.
 
At this stage I can see almost no faults whatsoever - the little touches are of course the essence of football and any sport and this PES 5 game is just so excellent...it is much harder to beat your man etc...don't be alarmed by what you have heard about the hardness of the ai and not winning any games on three stars and then seeing my draw and win straight away....


I am just awesome



ahhhhh.............the modesty.

lol! Nah, but I am good t sports game - always have been. So three stars is still hard. The defence is tougher - more random and more constructive and organised..if that makes sense....they squeeze you out but can also surprise you. It is so very like a real game....and the graphics must be excellent....becos they were excellent at a very large image size. The players look great.....Henry's celebrations were crack up...nice segway to the fans madden style too on one goal.

sweet.

Surely the fifa debate is only really a kids versus adults debate yeah?

FIFA is for babies.
 
editing either you do it yourself or as normally the case with a game like pro evo a patch made by someone is usally out quick smart.
 
Originally posted by esoj@Oct 26 2005, 11:44 PM
editing either you do it yourself or as normally the case with a game like pro evo a patch made by someone is usally out quick smart.
I changed all stadia names, all english premiership team names and all competition names for ps2 in about an hour. It was easy.

Hope helps.

Rugby 2005 editing took - and takes - waaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy longer.

Both are worth it.

Lost 49-37 in a game the other day on rugby 2005........that's right. 6 tries I conceded. Only a sublimely edited team can create that kind of carnage on you.

In the return game I beat them 42-3.....................There is a lesson in this.
 
some people just can't be bothered to do any editing at all either by themselves or be simply downloading a patch. these people miss out on so much and it doesn't take too long normally to edit a game like pro evo or download a patch for it. As you said before the proper names of players staduims etc adds so much to the game and makes playing it that extra bit better.
 
....so Los, do you think the slowing down of the gameplay has improved it considerably over PES4??

From all accounts turning is far more realistic (unlike PES4), and a possession based, patient "passing" game seems to get the better results on the pitch..........(waiting for the run off the ball, waiting for that killer thru ball)

On the other subject I always spend a few hours editing in PES. Including what Los has done plus updating any major "recent" team signings and changing well known players who have fake names..........really makes a big difference.

If you need lists of real names, real stadiums, real teams/logos/kits etc, go to somewhere like pesfan.com or evoweb.co.uk..............or if you have it on PC they will also have the patches to do all the changes.
 
I ALWAYS edit the teams, esepecially the Premiership ones. It absolutely infuriates me when they aren't correct. If only there was a PS2 patch....
 
Originally posted by .:kaftka:.+Oct 25 2005, 06:31 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (.:kaftka:. @ Oct 25 2005, 06:31 PM)</div>
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@Oct 25 2005, 05:22 PM
Well...............   "and then there were four"

Saintsfan24/7, Gay-Guy, gjohn85, Teh Mite.
*Ahem*
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I haven't played Pro Evo 5 either, but am regularly playing Fifa 06, and it is great. There are quite a few issues though, but what game doesn't have them.

I'm loving the manager mode as well, but it is staring to get a tad tedious after a while. Might change team at the end of this season, Blackburn are now too good
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...As are the somewhere or rather Young Boys. [/b]
1 Word.

S C U N T H O R P E

Best. Team. EVAR!

Only in FIFA I guess could they win the EPL...
 
Originally posted by NZL fan@Oct 27 2005, 07:41 AM
....so Los, do you think the slowing down of the gameplay has improved it considerably over PES4??

From all accounts turning is far more realistic (unlike PES4), and a possession based, patient "passing" game seems to get the better results on the pitch..........(waiting for the run off the ball, waiting for that killer thru ball)

On the other subject I always spend a few hours editing in PES. Including what Los has done plus updating any major "recent" team signings and changing well known players who have fake names..........really makes a big difference.

If you need lists of real names, real stadiums, real teams/logos/kits etc, go to somewhere like pesfan.com or evoweb.co.uk..............or if you have it on PC they will also have the patches to do all the changes.
It is soccer.

pure and simple...yes truning is hard....if you make abreak you are slower with the ball of course and can only go so far befoe nedding to beat him again or pass etc....

Only a non-gamer could complain about this game. I conside soccer to be about my fourth or fifth favourite sport and this game is absolutely mint. Mint I tell you.

I drew with man U (I am Arsenal) - I scored in the 89th and they scored in the 90th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!
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Oh well....five games in and I am 3 wins and two draws...first place......holy fluke artist!!!!!

only 40-odd games to go (the FA cup is run concurrently - I renamed it of course)

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They are 15 minute games too....a great, realistic length that feels just right.....comes recommended if you have patience and are happy to play 2-3 games only ina session.
 
Well just to tell you all i aint no unco
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I held Chelsea to a 0-0 draw last night on 5 star

Although I was under the pump the whole time

All in all it is definatley harder than the previous 2 editions of PES...ur attacking options are now subject to teamwork...no more bolting around with Ronaldo or Ronaldhino.....u'll need to use tactics, and your team mates

6 stars will work wonders when u buy it in the pes shop, and have that superstar team of ZITO, The 'GULATZIAN', and the one and only MARAS...IMO you'll need these guys to be successful in the 6th sense...6 stars that is.
 
Originally posted by St Helens RLFC@Oct 26 2005, 10:25 PM
I ALWAYS edit the teams, esepecially the Premiership ones. It absolutely infuriates me when they aren't correct. If only there was a PS2 patch....
This is why I will always get it on PC. Some modder going by the name of Wolf, always creates absolutely huge patches for the PES series which change everything that is unofficial in the game, names, kits, etc, and makes it ultra realistic.

And that is why the PC is better than a PS2
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*Ready to be mauled by the Sony brigade.*
 
Originally posted by SaintsFan_Webby@Oct 27 2005, 07:27 PM
*Ready to be mauled by the Sony brigade.*
here I come PC PANDA!!!!!!!!!!!!
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the 3rd place rules man
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I ALWAYS edit the teams, esepecially the Premiership ones. It absolutely infuriates me when they aren't correct. If only there was a PS2 patch....[/b]

Well actually you can patch a PS2 PES game. Granted it takes more effort and equipment than it's PC counterpart, but you get the same result.
 
OK, me and a mate had a real good bash at this (12 hours of playing and drinking), so I feel confident in what I'm about to report...........

For newer users, or ones who havn't played the series in the past religiously, the new game will be a great test of patience and much practise/time on the game will be required. I'd compare the difference from PES2/3/4 to PES5 as the same as the shock of playing PES1 on playstation 2 for the first time after playing the series on PS1.

For experienced players who persist in trying to play as you would in PES2/3/4 (ie. passes finding their mark 90% of the time regardless of situation, ball sticking to your feet, end to end "pin ball" effect), you too will find this game almost impossible to play.....

From the PES forums about there are people in both categories that have given up very quickly on the new version due to these issues........

....for the majority of people though this is (and I concur) by far the best in the series, and still light years above the recent FIFA 06 (enough though on that hornets nest
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Major differences to PES4........

*Ball doesn't stick to your feet, it bounces off players - it gets intercepted alot when you pass carelessly - it skids/stops/slices when under/over hit - ie. it reacts like a real football. However some users may be put off at the begining due to a feeling of being unable to control it.
*More attention required to pass. No longer can you just hit the pass button and produce excellent weighted passes regardless of the passers/pass receivers position on the field. Players are more prone to intercept, passes have to be perfectly weighted by holding down the pass button (long or short), hard passes to close receivers will see the ball "bounce" off the recepient. Crosses are now far quicker and flatter, leading to some awesome headers/goal mouth action. Again first time players may give up in disgust as they continually lose possession due to under/over hitting passes/thru balls, whilst the opposition seem to have all the ball in your half.
*Shooting is different. Heavy fingers on the shoot button will see the ball flying over the bar, major curve is now possible with some of the top players on the field - and improved for all players with shooting ability, Goalies are tougher to beat, shooting chances are harder to come by. No easy goal "hotspots" that I have seen.
*Fouls and collision. Refs are MUCH tougher on contact and more free kicks are awarded as a result. New players may become frustrated by seemingly endless "stop-starting" for somewhat petty infringing (a slight breeze knocks some of these blokes over
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). Size of players makes a bigger diference in the contact area with bigger/heavier players pushing around/over smaller ones (you'll often see players being pushed over a lot off the ball as well as in free kick situations).

.....thats the major ones however graphics have improved, cut scenes etc, replays are better, better players in teams stand out far more, advantage implemented better, camera angles more numerous (after having played one certain camera angle for all my time playing the PES series I finally found a better playing angle on PES5!!) - and all the small touches you'd expect from the series are still evident - for instance if an injury occurs whilst play continues, you can kick the ball out and then after you see the injured player being attended to play will continue with the computer controlled player throwing the ball back to you!!

After a certain amount of playing/initial difficulty (this will vary for different players, some will never get there and give up in frustration, some players will get it straight away, most will take anywhere between a few hours to a few days/weeks) the game will suddenly all make sense to you. You'll be passing the ball around with great control, shots of never before seen power will hit their mark 90% of the time, infringements will lessen as you improve/change your defensive technique, free kicks will be more then not successful, tackling cleaner - GOALSwill happen more frequently......

It is only then that you will be able to see the depth and experience the full enjoyment behind the game. Yes, it is the toughest PES version to "get into", however eventually, with much patience, it is also the most rewarding and enjoyable game of the series.

Rating: 9.5/10
 
Agree with all the stuff above.

I also have to mention little things like the free kick system as well though. In PES4, scoring from a free kick was rock solid. I think I only managed about 3 in actual matches during a year of playing (mabye I'm just crap
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However, they are now much easier to control with the top players. This doesn't detract from the challenge of scoring, and you are still not going to be blasting them in every time. It does make the game more realistic though, with a dead ball specialist such as Beckham able to hit the target much more easily, with more curl on the ball than someone with low skills in this area.

Overall this game is better than PES4, which I loved, and no doubt I will be playing it right up until Pro Evo 6 comes out.
 
After even more play, I've yet to master the game (even on a paltry 3 stars!!) but the tide is indeed changing in my favour..........

Now I am receiving twice as many fouls awarded in my favour then against, getting some REAL power on most my shots, passing has improved remarkably as well as my time in possession..........

The game now has really become more of a possession game. Being patient by keeping/holding up the ball until a supporting player makes that killer run is key to unlocking opposition defenses.

You'll also be able to do so much more with the better players, they really do stand out when playing average - good opposition.

I used to always play my PES games on the standard, side position, but in this version being so close tothe action really makes the game impossible to play. In the past this didn't matter because if your receiving player was off screen your passes would still find the man 95% of the time. In PES5 however I'd say that "blind" passing is only successful maybe 20-30% of the time..... - now I play of standard "broadcast" camera.
 
Been playing the game online all day, and it's absolutely blown me away just how good it is! Playing against human opponents is so addictive, snatching a last minute equaliser against someone I'd never met had me leaping from my chair in delight.

This is quite simply the best sports simulation I've ever played. If anyone ever comes close to this level of realism and detail with a rugby game you'd never drag me away.
 
Originally posted by SaintsFan_Webby@Oct 30 2005, 08:42 AM
Been playing the game online all day, and it's absolutely blown me away just how good it is! Playing against human opponents is so addictive, snatching a last minute equaliser against someone I'd never met had me leaping from my chair in delight.

This is quite simply the best sports simulation I've ever played. If anyone ever comes close to this level of realism and detail with a rugby game you'd never drag me away.
I'm exactly the same, but with FIFA 06. Been playing it online, EA have finally got a game that has got everything right.

Tried another go on pro evo 5 (spent 3 hours multiplayer, then single player) & it still doesn't appeal to me. I'm glad in a way because I don't have to spend weeks editing all the players & they're names.

I can now finally say that pro evo 2 has finally gone for good! I have had many years of playing the game (multiplayer only) which I have really enjoyed. But I have a new baby now & its not pro evo 5, its Fifa 06
 
Originally posted by gjohn85@Oct 30 2005, 10:16 AM
Tried another go on pro evo 5 (spent 3 hours multiplayer, then single player) & it still doesn't appeal to me. I'm glad in a way because I don't have to spend weeks editing all the players & they're names.
Thats reminds me............

If you have your old PES4 options file saved you can just import that information into your PES5 option file, hence no need to edit anything if you have already done that for PES4...........
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Man, I'm just getting better and better at PES5, the "moves" you can put on once you have mastered the controls, and new feel of the game, really puts this head and shoulders above the competition.

........no script here (dig at FIFA), just impromptu footballing heaven.

Oh, and to the few that said that Brian Lara was as good as the PES series............they are light years apart (what were you smoking???).........the AI thats goes into the reactions of different players in PES5 would be far superior to the AI in the WHOLE game of Brian Lara cricket.....
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Originally posted by NZL fan@Oct 30 2005, 08:38 AM
- now I play of standard "broadcast" camera.
Fill me in NZL of this camera

on the demo i found my passes to the phantom map dot, would rarely find the mark

I use the default camera, but changed the panning angle to #2

how does the broadcast benefit this situation?
 
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