[November Tests 2016 EOYT] England vs. Australia (3/12/2016)

[Leonormous Boozer]

I've asked you to provide evidence for ages so you put up first. Either you can substantiate your accusations of Jones or you are talking bull.

You accused me of calling the English arrogant, didn't give my intelligence an awful lot of respect with your use of tge "words" 'herp' and 'derp'. You've entered this argume t blind and making false accusations and you're tge only one talking 'bull'...

 

[McTallshort]

We are not arrogant we are just better than everyone.

 

[ncurd]

Everyone forgets that if England had played a A team and not our B team v France in the RWC warm up our unbeaten record would of been 25 games.

It is rather amusing that Jones is labeled as ushering the Aussies decline when he made a world cup final and almost won (with the help of the ref). However he across one of the all time great sides and lost so therefore is a loser. We didn't think less of Chieka for losing to NZ last year (this year far less so as he's not taken that momentum on).

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Was EJ asked about Ireland?
I didn't see/hear his comments, but usually when it's something like that they're asked a question then everyone kicks off when they answer it cause they just wwoonntt stop talking about it

 

[Duck a l'Orange]

Was EJ asked about Ireland?
I didn't see/hear his comments, but usually when it's something like that they're asked a question then everyone kicks off when they answer it cause they just wwoonntt stop talking about it

This. I can't even imagine how it'd be possible for a coach to bring up another team's game in a pre match interview unless it was brought up by the interviewer.

All interviews are completely driven by the interviewer anyway.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Was EJ asked about Ireland?
I didn't see/hear his comments, but usually when it's something like that they're asked a question then everyone kicks off when they answer it cause they just wwoonntt stop talking about it

He was asked if after tge surprises and close games of the last couple weeks he could see Fiji pushing England and replied only acknowledging how his money would be on 'England and New Zealand' no mention of Italy or Scotland. Even so, minutes prior to a test match he shouldn't be giving weather predictions never mind a test match between a side he hasn't faced and one that he'd faced 8 months previously. Its disrespectful to all involved if you ask me.

 

[McTallshort]

He was asked if after tge surprises and close games of the last couple weeks he could see Fiji pushing England and replied only acknowledging how his money would be on 'England and New Zealand' no mention of Italy or Scotland. Even so, minutes prior to a test match he shouldn't be giving weather predictions never mind a test match between a side he hasn't faced and one that he'd faced 8 months previously. Its disrespectful to all involved if you ask me.

Is that it? Cry me a river

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

You've entered this argume t blind and making false accusations and you're tge only one talking 'bull'...

Says the one who STILL hasn't supported a single thing he said about Jones. Your hypocrisy knows no bounds. Also seriously, you find Eddie Jones just saying that his money was on England and NZ disrespectful? so there we have it, any time an English coach or player says anything other than every single team has a decent chance is deemed offensive... Absolute ****ing joke. If your skin was any thinner it would be see through.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

He was asked if after tge surprises and close games of the last couple weeks he could see Fiji pushing England and replied only acknowledging how his money would be on 'England and New Zealand' no mention of Italy or Scotland. Even so, minutes prior to a test match he shouldn't be giving weather predictions never mind a test match between a side he hasn't faced and one that he'd faced 8 months previously. Its disrespectful to all involved if you ask me.

Not sure how that is disrespectful TBH?

He was asked a question and gave an answer FFS.

Most people money would of been on England and New Zealand on that week Scotland V Argentina would of been to close and Italy and SA was still playing and hadn't finished before the Fiji England game.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Says the one who STILL hasn't supported a single thing he said about Jones. Your hypocrisy knows no bounds. Also seriously, you find Eddie Jones just saying that his money was on England and NZ disrespectful? so there we have it, any time an English coach or player says anything other than every single team has a decent chance is deemed offensive... Absolute ****ing joke. If your skin was any thinner it would be see through.

Thin skin? Irony knows no bounds!

You also haven't retracted your false claim about me, that's the personal issue here and the one I'm pursuing first.

Its notging to do with his test, he's sticking his nose where it doesn't belong. Give Schmidt or Hansen that question and they say their sole focus is on their opponent, those guys are the benchmark that Jones and Cheika are falling under when it comes to behaving as a coach. While Jones appears to be doing a good job while winning he won't when he starts to falter.

Anyway, calm down, you're coming accross as very precious and paranoid because of something I never said. Its a waste of energy!

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Is that it? Cry me a river

Ennit, if that's all he said that it's ridiculous it's even being mentioned here

 

[McTallshort]

Not sure how that is disrespectful TBH?

He was asked a question and gave an answer FFS.

Most people money would of been on England and New Zealand on that week Scotland V Argentina would of been to close and Italy and SA was still playing and hadn't finished before the Fiji England game.

Yes but he didn't mention Ireland's historical win against the All Blacks!

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

He also completely dismissed his own opposition he felt were worthy enough to throw out a full strength XV against and deemed to be a big enough challenge to justify never playing Rokoduguni again... For a guy who has coached a tier 2 nation to an upset you'd expect more cop on.

 

[McTallshort]

He also completely dismissed his own opposition he felt were worthy enough to throw out a full strength XV against and deemed to be a big enough challenge to justify never playing Rokoduguni again... For a guy who has coached a tier 2 nation to an upset you'd expect more cop on.

Ahhh there there, do you want some cookies and milk?

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

He also completely dismissed his own opposition he felt were worthy enough to throw out a full strength XV against and deemed to be a big enough challenge to justify never playing Rokoduguni again... For a guy who has coached a tier 2 nation to an upset you'd expect more cop on.

Whinge whinge whinge waa waa oh England didn't praise my team and thought they could win. You really have a chip on your shoulder regarding the English don't you? Still not posted any comments Jones has supposedly made that are so horrible. Also you think that was the full strength England team? God your level of delusion is astonishing...

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Whinge whinge whinge waa waa oh England didn't praise my team and thought they could win. You really have a chip on your shoulder regarding the English don't you? Still not posted any comments Jones has supposedly made that are so horrible. Also you think that was the full strength England team? God your level of delusion is astonishing...

Me, chip on my shoulder, look at how you've behaved compared to me lad, anyone criticises anything with a red rose on it and they hate England, find anything I have ever said on these boards to ever suggest I hate England... I think I have Tigs Man and Olyy on here to back that up to name just two. The only one I'm criticising is an Aussie FFS.

You have ignored me, made multiple false accusations now, insulted and disrespected me. One of us has come accross as reasonable, mature and well mannered in this 'argument' and it wasn't the petulant little space cadet who failed to realise I wasn't going to further the argument he wanted without him acknowledging that the vitriol he immediately spouted entering the argument completely blind as to what had been said was wrong and unfounded. Instead you continued to blindly take it forward.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

He also completely dismissed his own opposition he felt were worthy enough to throw out a full strength XV against and deemed to be a big enough challenge to justify never playing Rokoduguni again... For a guy who has coached a tier 2 nation to an upset you'd expect more cop on.

They did get thumped by the Barbarians the week before though.

And of course he would put money on his own team FFS.

He was respectful to Fiji throughout the week.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Me, chip on my shoulder, look at how you've behaved compared to me lad, anyone criticises anything with a red rose on it and they hate England, find anything I have ever said on these boards to ever suggest I hate England... I think I have Tigs Man and Olyy on here to back that up to name just two. The only one I'm criticising is an Aussie FFS.

You have ignored me, made multiple false accusations now, insulted and disrespected me. One of us has come accross as reasonable, mature and well mannered in this 'argument' and it wasn't the petulant little space cadet who failed to realise I wasn't going to further the argument he wanted without him acknowledging that the vitriol he immediately spouted entering the argument completely blind as to what had been said was wrong and unfounded. Instead you continued to blindly take it forward.

No not anyone, you. You've proven this by the fact you've got so upset at Eddie Jones saying his side could beat a team we've always beaten convincingly and thinking, like most of the rugby world, that NZ would beat Ireland. How terrible. You haven't made any valid criticism of England, you are just the "arrogant English" crown where nothing we do is ever right, we are always doing something wrong. Look at how you dismissed all the **** Cheika has been saying straight away and then made claims about Jones that you STILL haven't supported with actual examples. This isn't the first time you've waded into England threads with the sole purpose of **** stirring.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

There's a game on in a couple of minutes, I think

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Have they binned off that official England anthem singer woman?