New Zealand vs England 2nd Test (13/07/24)

[Vieux Talonneur]

NZ stepping up the pace.

Itoje going well but that's at least the 3rd pen he's conceded.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Having George Martin in the team has helped England's general forward power but has it made England's lineout worse?

I mean his line out work at tigers is great

 

[Grizwald]

Why do England keep putting kicks through to nothing? Blew this with some poor decesion making.

 

[Jimbo]

England are spent. That barret change has changed this instantly.

Mostly because Steward is simply too slow, some pace would mitigate a lot of Barrett's impact.

 

[Wasps92]

Why do England keep putting kicks through to nothing? Blew this with some poor decesion making.

It's driving me mad.

 

[Wasps92]

Another stupid ******* penalty.

We've lost the plot here.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

That's convenient

 

[TopTen2003]

Steward and Freeman look like theyre blowing a bit in that last defensive set prior to the penalty.

Hang on- Marcus back on for Stewards HIA- might give us a little spark for this final ten

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Borthwick bench is pretty crazy poo
No versatility

 

[Wasps92]

I don't think Steward is Test match quality which is odd as he started his international career really well. I think he's been found out now though. He's a distant second choice behind Furbank.

 

[Grizwald]

It's driving me mad.

Been at it all night. Playing into NZ hands playing so loose.

Being positive it can and hopefully will be sorted with more experience to maintain control in tight games.

 

[Jashay]

Stat just popped up saying 4 handling errors by England; feels like Lawrence has made more than that on his own!

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

I don't think Steward is Test match quality which is odd as he started his international career really well. I think he's been found out now though. He's a distant second choice behind Furbank.

I mean if he was good when he started it's prob more a case of he he's international quality in certain systems which is what you can say for 90% of players


Like Furbank didn't look test quality in a system that made Steward look test quality

V NZ I think it's obvious that Furbank is vastly superior
V SA I don't think it's the case

 

[Grizwald]

I don't think Steward is Test match quality which is odd as he started his international career really well. I think he's been found out now though. He's a distant second choice behind Furbank.

He's a special teams sort of FB based on opposition and conditions. He could have an international future if he could transition to 12.

 

[Grizwald]

Scrum penalties on your own feed though.......

 

[Wasps92]

That's probably game.

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

Itoje again….

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Our props always look so much smaller than the opposition - even Cole, who is our most old school prop available, isn't huge like the others are

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Only thing england did well was two cross field kicks and prob our locks
Everything else has been poor and the bench offers nothing

Maybe playing the whole starting XV v Japan wasn't a good idea as we look gassed in the final 20 of both games

 

[Wasps92]

******* pathetic.