[June Tests 2018: 1st Test] South Africa vs. England (09/06/2018)

[Pieter Steph du Teague]

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Lets just hope your team is not thinking about the ref. Crying at the ref could see the Boks get a record score line. They need to think about how they can get back in this. They need to look after their ball and make their tackles.

It's hard to get back in when SA are allowed to dive in off their feet, lie on the wrong side without ever being penalised whilst we get penalised in a ruck when we don't even have a player in it. I pointed it out early and now SA are benefiting from it

 

[All Black]

If you scroll up you can read previous replies and see it was being brought up all game

Look through pages 1-13 of this thread (that was when England was winning) there wasnt really any complaints about the ref.

Lets just hope your players arent fixated on the ref because they will definitely lose with that mentality. NO DOUBT!

 

[TommiG88]

I think we thought the game was won. Our forwards haven't competed or slow the ball. Robshaw is a constant passenger, and I think he should have come off.

 

[All Black]

If you scroll up you can read previous replies and see it was being brought up all game

Look through pages 1-13 of this thread (that was when England was winning) there wasnt really any complaints about the ref.

Lets just hope your players arent fixated on the ref because they will definitely lose with that mentality. Need to think comeback like the Boks. Not ref.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Lets just hope your team is not thinking about the ref. Crying at the ref could see the Boks get a record score line.

Why would they be?
And when were they crying at the ref? They're not Irish

 

[All Black]

I think we thought the game was won. Our forwards haven't competed or slow the ball. Robshaw is a constant passenger, and I think he should have come off.

Might've got complacent. That was a dream start and England did make it look easy. Agree about the forwards.

 

[saulan]

Does England have a fetcher in their squad? It seems Vermuelen is doing it for us, but I haven't seen any good steal attempts from England.

 

[TommiG88]

Look through pages 1-13 of this thread (that was when England was winning) there wasnt really any complaints about the ref.

Lets just hope your players arent fixated on the ref because they will definitely lose with that mentality. NO DOUBT!

Because we were winning and there was barely a penalty or break in play. So how can we complain about the ref where there is no decision to be made? Confusing logic.

Furthermore, I mention the ref when we winning by 14, when we blown up for not rolling away, and George had long gone from the ruck and we had 2 players on our feet.

 

[unrated]

Are you guys of the opinion that the ref has favoured SA so much that he is the reason why England is losing?

 

[Pieter Steph du Teague]

Does England have a fetcher in their squad? It seems Vermuelen is doing it for us, but I haven't seen any good steal attempts from England.

Tom Curry

 

[TommiG88]

Does England have a fetcher in their squad? It seems Vermuelen is doing it for us, but I haven't seen any good steal attempts from England.

A 19 yo at 7 called Curry.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Does England have a fetcher in their squad? It seems Vermuelen is doing it for us, but I haven't seen any good steal attempts from England.

Tom Curry, but I don't think I've seen him since the anthem.
South Africa's support play is so so SO much better than ours though. We send our runners in by themselves whereas the Boks send them in in 2s or 3s. I don't whether we do it so that the opposition defence presumes they're not a crashball runner because they're by themselves, or something, but it's not been working for the last two years but we keep doing it.

Are you guys of the opinion that the ref has favoured SA so much that he is the reason why England is losing?

Not in the slightest.
People get so salty on here when English people question referees decisions they like to make a big drama out of everything.
It's possible for the referee to make questionable calls but not have an impact on the result - NZ would have still battered France earlier but the decision to card and then not card high tackles was ludicrous.

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

Does England have a fetcher in their squad? It seems Vermuelen is doing it for us, but I haven't seen any good steal attempts from England.

Curry

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

Are you guys of the opinion that the ref has favoured SA so much that he is the reason why England is losing?

No but it doesn't help when we get penalised for not rolling out of rucks we aren't in

 

[Every Time Ref]

I wouldn't want to be Paul Gustard right now

 

[TommiG88]

Are you guys of the opinion that the ref has favoured SA so much that he is the reason why England is losing?

Not at all, but his decision making at the break down is confusing.

 

[All Black]

It's hard to get back in when SA are allowed to dive in off their feet, lie on the wrong side without ever being penalised whilst we get penalised in a ruck when we don't even have a player in it. I pointed it out early and now SA are benefiting from it

Yep you did point it out earlier. I found your earlier post.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

I wouldn't want to be Paul Gustard right now

He's taking over Quins so I don't think I'd want to be him at any point, tbh

 

[All Black]

Not at all, but his decision making at the break down is confusing.

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