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An Tarbh
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well we had one when we beat France.
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Bullitt
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MunsterMan @ Feb 26 2009, 05:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
Haskell would never get into the Ireland side.
Dellalglio and the RFU/Wasps Media Machine have no interest/influence on Ireland.
Haskell would never get into the Ireland side.
Dellalglio and the RFU/Wasps Media Machine have no interest/influence on Ireland.
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shtove
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Monkeypigeon @ Feb 26 2009, 09:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
Well if there were 15 Lee Byrnes then they could start everywhere...except Fullback, Kearney would get that place. Here fishy fishy....
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:lol: Any bites from the Welsh flounders?
England are going to keep trying a 15 man game. Probably won't come close against Ireland, but it will click one day.
Well if there were 15 Lee Byrnes then they could start everywhere...except Fullback, Kearney would get that place. Here fishy fishy....
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:lol: Any bites from the Welsh flounders?
England are going to keep trying a 15 man game. Probably won't come close against Ireland, but it will click one day.
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Prestwick
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Have England lost yet?
Come on, I bet a fiver (again I must add, guess who sent that text to the BBC live feed for England vs Wales) with a work mate that England would get a man binned within 20 minutes..
Come on, I bet a fiver (again I must add, guess who sent that text to the BBC live feed for England vs Wales) with a work mate that England would get a man binned within 20 minutes..
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hr15
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i reckon we'll win. who's starting at 10?
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An Tarbh
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (hr15 @ Feb 27 2009, 09:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
I assume it's Jonny who'll kick like 30 points
I assume it's Jonny who'll kick like 30 points
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (An Tarbh @ Feb 27 2009, 10:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
I assume it's Jonny who'll kick like 30 points
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Ha, only thirty? Remember, he is on the same par as God. I'd say at least 60. B)
I assume it's Jonny who'll kick like 30 points
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Ha, only thirty? Remember, he is on the same par as God. I'd say at least 60. B)
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An Tarbh
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nick_w @ Feb 27 2009, 11:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
I assume it's Jonny who'll kick like 30 points
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Ha, only thirty? Remember, he is on the same par as God. I'd say at least 60. B)
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I figure God's Irish so be thankful you're only getting 30
I assume it's Jonny who'll kick like 30 points
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Ha, only thirty? Remember, he is on the same par as God. I'd say at least 60. B)
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I figure God's Irish so be thankful you're only getting 30
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (hr15 @ Feb 27 2009, 08:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
I like your approach. Stop, think, analyse then offer a prediction. None of this rushing to conclusions with no information nonsense.
Anyhoo. I have to say I'm not comfortable with this one. Have a bad feeling that were going to get turned over. These are the kind of games that we tend to lose, when were expected to win, at home, and we are favourites.
The ref will ping us off the park, Flannery will make a mess of the lineouts and we'll go from playing decent continuity rugby to dropping the ball every 30 seconds. O'Gara will have a fit of some kind and have to come off leaving Paddy Wallace, with blood streaming out of every pore to dispose of the slowest ball known to man, as quickly and aimlessly as possible. The crowd will try but after 30 mins they get nervous, this transfers through to the pitch and the second half becomes a horror show.
I like your approach. Stop, think, analyse then offer a prediction. None of this rushing to conclusions with no information nonsense.
Anyhoo. I have to say I'm not comfortable with this one. Have a bad feeling that were going to get turned over. These are the kind of games that we tend to lose, when were expected to win, at home, and we are favourites.
The ref will ping us off the park, Flannery will make a mess of the lineouts and we'll go from playing decent continuity rugby to dropping the ball every 30 seconds. O'Gara will have a fit of some kind and have to come off leaving Paddy Wallace, with blood streaming out of every pore to dispose of the slowest ball known to man, as quickly and aimlessly as possible. The crowd will try but after 30 mins they get nervous, this transfers through to the pitch and the second half becomes a horror show.
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An Tarbh
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alright now I'm nervous.
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shazbooger
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Oh ................. and we'll all probably return to work on Monday to find out our jobs are no longer there.
but hey, lets be optimistic eh
but hey, lets be optimistic eh
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An Tarbh
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and there was me thinking the rugby was the one thing to lift the spirits of the nation, such a daft concept I know as it's scant consolation to anyone who lost their job in the wake of the French match.
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shazbooger
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Ahhhhh my company is going to make their "announcement" early next week so everything is up in the air. The rugby is welcome relief from the stress to be honest so I understand the whole "raise the nation" mentality. A win could make us all feel a little better, if only for a few days.
Oh and it was in the paper (the Times) that O'Kelly was dropped as a result of a timekeeping issue. It wasnt fitness or form, just a minor breach of dicipline.
Oh and it was in the paper (the Times) that O'Kelly was dropped as a result of a timekeeping issue. It wasnt fitness or form, just a minor breach of dicipline.
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Prestwick
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On a more serious note, what do people make of Brian Smith's kerfuffle with the IRB over Johnathan Kaplan?
Personally, Kaplan is a one off as the other South African refs are very nice people. Kaplan though just seems to hate England with the passion of a T-1000 overclocked by 200%. I still don't agree with Smith moaning about it though, they need to carry their moaning out behind the scenes, preferably towards the match officials themselves..
Personally, Kaplan is a one off as the other South African refs are very nice people. Kaplan though just seems to hate England with the passion of a T-1000 overclocked by 200%. I still don't agree with Smith moaning about it though, they need to carry their moaning out behind the scenes, preferably towards the match officials themselves..
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An Tarbh
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I think it's a ploy that may or may not work for England, if it means that Joubert keeps a sterner eye on Irish play than job done for England, if Joubert approaches it like, "I'm not gonna cow tow to their pressure" then it will all have been in vain.
The most likely thing is to try and deflect media attention away from England's performance over the last 6 months and onto more trivial matters.
The most likely thing is to try and deflect media attention away from England's performance over the last 6 months and onto more trivial matters.
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shazbooger
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Looks like is may have done the job. The ref knows he'll be analysed based on his penalty count against England. Cant do any harm for England if the ref's under a bit more pressure to be perceived as fair.
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Bumbadum
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I think the guy is out of line commenting publically about the ref, it should be behind closed doors and with dignity, this isn't football; honestly Kaplan didn't have that bad a game. What if England had beaten Wales? Would we have so much drama about it then?
I think something the England whining contingent (lest we forget that most England fans are actually realistic and sensible) forget is that England have won a lot of games based on questionable or marginal ref calls down the years, you never notice unless you suffer by it.
I don't think it'll have an effect on the game tomorrow; I don't know all that much about Joubert but hopefully he'll just call what he sees and if they lose and go ahead and blame him then that's their problem.
I think something the England whining contingent (lest we forget that most England fans are actually realistic and sensible) forget is that England have won a lot of games based on questionable or marginal ref calls down the years, you never notice unless you suffer by it.
I don't think it'll have an effect on the game tomorrow; I don't know all that much about Joubert but hopefully he'll just call what he sees and if they lose and go ahead and blame him then that's their problem.
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An Tarbh
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I think that's why the management are coming out of this so badly, it's the manner in which they've done things, had they done things properly than they wouldn't have the IRB on their back and someone like Paddy O'Brien won't have any problem appointing Kaplan for future England games.
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Daylightfire
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Back to tomorrows game,,
I'm starting to get a good feeling about this one, I reckon England might sneak it! This could also be down to the fact that I have bet on Ireland
I'm starting to get a good feeling about this one, I reckon England might sneak it! This could also be down to the fact that I have bet on Ireland
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Bumbadum
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England can certainly win it, from watching 5/6 nations matches for 15 years i've learned that even when England are in disarray they're still annoyingly hard to beat, and Ireland generally play like little girls when they are heavy favourites, so anything could happen.
England need a few key players to have big games if they're to challenge, and Borthwick needs to grab the game by the scruff of the neck and stamp his authority on the captaincy - unfortunately for England i don't think he has the capacity to do so, Paul Oconnell just makes him look like a puppy dog.
England need a few key players to have big games if they're to challenge, and Borthwick needs to grab the game by the scruff of the neck and stamp his authority on the captaincy - unfortunately for England i don't think he has the capacity to do so, Paul Oconnell just makes him look like a puppy dog.
