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Hec 2005/2006

Yep, doesn't do too badly for Edinburgh either. Nice lad too, met him a few times..he's registered to my club (though I play at u18 sometimes he's taken us for training with Allan Jacobson) and definatley has balls.
 
Edinburgh won what was a very scrappy and poor game tonight. Sheer passion and determination won it tonight. So many knock ons, dropped passes and it was just so, so ugly to watch. Too much turkey for some of the players today I think. Still, at the top of the league - if only for a day untill Munster (probably) hump Connacht.

Here's the report from the BBC.

Originally posted by BBC@Dec 26 2005, 18:23
Edinburgh got their Celtic League ***le challenge back on track with a fine win over the Border Reivers at Murrayfield.

Marcus Di Rollo crossed the line for the home side after 33 minutes but Opeta Palepoi replied immediately.

Ally Hogg and Peter Jorgensen added further tries for Edinburgh before Borders' Charlie Hore benefited from a kindly bounce off the posts.

Ally Kellock spiralled over to secure a bonus point before Chris Cusiter nipped over for a late try for the visitors.

Edinburgh had looked the hungrier outfit during the scrappy opening stages but their promising build-up work was spoiled by carelessness.

Hore edged the visitors in front with a straightforward penalty for offside after a period of sustained pressure from the home side.

The capital men claimed the first try of the contest when Scott Murray and Jorgensen combined in slick fashion to feed Di Rollo on the right wing.

Di Rollo turned on the pace to outstrip his markers and cruised to the line from 30 metres.

It took the Reivers less than three minutes to strike back. An initial penalty came to nothing, but a fluffed clearance by Phil Godman handed them a second chance to power into the danger zone with a rolling maul.

Edinburgh's pack could not contain the momentum and Samoan lock Palepoi plunged over for the touchdown. C

Chris Paterson and Hore were wide with the respective conversion attempts.

There was a further double setback for the hosts just before the interval when winger Simon Webster and prop Allan Jacobsen hobbled off to be replaced by Francisco Leonelli and Al Dickinson.

Their departure was soon forgotten as the Gunners surged ahead just three minutes after the restart.

Paterson was off the mark with a penalty, however Hore spilled the ball adjacent to his own posts.

And from the scrum, Hogg shrugged off two challenges to plough his way to the line - Paterson finding his range to add the conversion.

Hore repaired some of the damage by slotting his second penalty, but Edinburgh snatched back the momentum with another great touchdown from Jorgensen.

Again Paterson banged over the kick to give his side useful breathing space going into the final stages.

He boosted them further with a straightforward penalty, only to see the Reivers burst back into the picture with a freak score.

Gregor Townsend's deft chip seemed to be covered by the home defence, but when the ball rebounded from the post they were completely wrong-footed and Hore gleefully scooped it up to put it down and give himself a formality of a conversion.

Paterson eased the jitters at the other end with his second penalty - then Kellock made sure of the all-important bonus point.

However, Reivers refused to buckle and they salvaged a consolation point when Cusiter claimed a last-gasp try, goaled by Hore.

Edinburgh: H Southwell, C Paterson (Capt), M Di Rollo, P Jorgensen, S Webster, P Godman, M Blair, A Jacobsen, D Hall, C Smith, A Kellock, S Murray, A Hogg, S Taylor, S Cross
Replacements: A Kelly, D Hewett, A Strokosch, A MacDonald, R Lawson, M Dey, F Leonelli

Borders: S Moffat, S Danielli, B MacDougall, C Hore, N Walker, G Townsend, C Cusiter, P Thomson (Capt), R Ford, B Douglas, S MacLeod, O Palepoi, K Brown, S Sititi, S Gray.
Replacements: T McGee, S Scott, C Stewart, A Miller, B McKerchar, A Rennick, C MacRae.
 
The ERC has confirmed that the Ospreys have appealed against the 10 week ban handed out to Gavin Henson.

Meeting is likely to take place on Friday, so we should know by then how successful or unsuccessful the appeal will have been and if it's the latter whether there could be an extension to the initial sentence.
 
Castaignède views on the big matchs of this weekend:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div>
Cross-Channel battles put drool factor into European Cup

Thomas Castaignède
Monday January 9, 2006
The Guardian

To feel the true magic of the European Cup you have only to look at this weekend's three biggest games, the cross-Channel matches featuring top sides from the English Premiership and the French top 14. It's not only the line-ups - Bath, Leicester, Stade Français, Bourgoin, Toulouse, Wasps - which make your mouth water but the fact that the games will go a long way towards deciding the final shape of the three pools involved.

Bath are well set after a perfect start and if they win in Bourgoin they will qualify, but they know that nothing should be taken for granted after the way that Leinster sneaked past them with two late tries a year ago. And travelling to Bourgoin is not for the faint-hearted. The French club are unbeaten at home in the league since 2002 and it's one of the coldest bits of France - ski jacket and thermal gloves are recommended.

They are only a small town, and they were a huge disappointment last year in the European Cup, but this year they have already beaten Leinster at home. They have a massive pack of forwards, with internationals such as Pascal Pape at lock, Olivier Milloud in the front row and Julien Bonnaire in the back row, and, though their backs are not household names, Alexandre Péclier is one of the best kickers in France's Championnat.

As for Leicester against Stade Français, we can expect something better than the scrappy fare these two giants served up when they met in the autumn. Stade have improved in the past few weeks as players have returned from the injury crisis that hit at the start of the season, with key guys such as Juan Hernández and Ignacio Corleto coming back. Their fly-half David Skrela is also back, although it's not clear whether he or the 36-year-old veteran Alain Penaud will start at Welford Road, but what's certain is that their pack is massive and, having won there in January 2004 as Dean Richards' reign came to a close, the East Midlands hold no fears for them.

Back then Leicester greats such as Martin Johnson and Neil Back were still playing. The Tigers now have plenty of absentees, such as Daryl Gibson, Lewis Moody and the Tuilagi brothers. Moreover Stade know that, being a point ahead of Leicester, they will have a good chance of qualifying even if they lose, so they will not be much affected by pressure.

I'd still wonder about the chances of a surprise at Toulouse. The form book - and history - says that winning at Stade Ernest Wallon is an astonishing feat, but Wasps have not completely burned their bridges so far as qualifying goes. The High Wycombe team don't have the strongest front five but if they can get the ball the backs are as good as you will see. The Wasps pack gave Toulouse a difficult time when the sides met in Buckinghamshire in the autumn. It was a game the English side could have won rather than drawn, had they opted not to kick for goal with their last play.

If you are wondering how seriously Toulouse are taking their visitors, bear this in mind: they rested Frédéric Michalak over the weekend to keep him fresh. They have a fair number of injuries - Finau Maka and Jean-Baptiste Elissalde have been the main absentees - but the truly intimidating thing about Toulouse is that the stand-ins are bound to be just as redoubtable.

I'm expecting three French victories out of three this weekend, if the form book is anything to go by. That's not chauvinism, because I have nothing against these English sides. That's just my feeling.

It would be silly to see a side like Wasps disappear owing primarily to the fact that they've been drawn in a "pool of death", but they probably sealed their own fate by failing to put Toulouse away at home and slipping up in Edinburgh.

At Saracens we will get a flavour of the same magic and the same pressure in 10 days' time when we travel to Biarritz for what should be the decisive game in our pool. It's all or nothing for us: win and we can probably qualify, but if we lose we will be eliminated for sure. That is what Europe is all about: travel and seize your chance or say au revoir.[/b]
 
Well I hope he's right as far as the three French victories are concerned, would certainly give Leinster a fighting chance at the Rec, we should realistically pick up 5 points against Glasgow if not then we don't deserve to qualify.

Thankfully he didn't say how the Munster Castres match would go, with Castres completely gone with only 1 win, this game shouldn't be that much of a priority for them, Munster's recent record in France is poor so they'll be looking to put that right come Friday, Horan and Foley are back for Munster after missing the Edinburgh match while Hayes, Flannery and Kelly should all be fit despite nursing injuries.

As for Ulster it's big ask to beat Biarritz at Ravenhill, the old fortress has been creaky in recent matches, losing to Leinster, unconvincing against Glasgow, they really need a bonus point as well, which is a massive ask.
 
Leinster have named their team for tomorow's crucial match with Glasgow, well crucial if Bourgoin can do us a favour tonight.

LEINSTER

15: Girvan Dempsey
14: Shane Horgan
13: Brian O’Driscoll CAPTAIN
12: Gordon D’Arcy
11: Denis Hickie
10: Felipe Contepomi
9: Guy Easterby

1: Reggie Corrigan
2: Brian Blaney
3: Emmett Byrne
4: Bryce Williams
5: Malcolm O’Kelly
6: Cameron Jowitt
7: Keith Gleeson
8: Jamie Heaslip

Replacements:

16: David Blaney
17: Ronan McCormack
18: Adam Byrnes
19: Eric Miller
20: Brian O'Riordan
21: Kieran Lewis
22: Rob Kearney

Don't see why Kearney, if fit, is on the bench, been in superb form all season, Horgan's been cack, **** sake lads we need to win this one with a bonus point, not have Horgan spilling ball all feckin' match.
 
Edinburgh v. Llanelli. Realistically I think this will decide the runner up. If Llanelli win, it'll be just. Edinburgh could, and should win tomorrow though I don't expect a bonus point.
 
Should be an Edinburgh win alright.

Munster going great guns in Castres, albeit they've given up, but bonus point already in the bag after 47 mins. Certainly makes next weeks fixture at Thomond a very tasty affair, if Munster win both teams should still go through, providing Sale beat the Dragons, but that should be a given.

Not good news for Leinster with Bath winning in Bourgoin, currently 22-9 in Bourgoin. We'll need plenty of favours methinks to get a runner up spot.

Ulster struggling at home to Biarritz, last score was 24-8 in favour of Biarritz. Next weeks game with Saracens will be crucial in deciding that group.
 
Bath become the first club through to the quarter-finals, coming from 6-3 down at haftime to win in Bourgoin 22-9. Bath tries from Walshe, Lipman and Cheeseman in an apparently awesome second half display (judging by the radio).

We can't score for toffee in the Premiership, but that's 16 in Europe this season. Didn't sound like it was a case of the Frenchies throwing up their arms and surrendering either. Ashton's more attacking selection (Barkley at 10, Welsh and Bory on the wings, Cheeseman at 13) is hopefully a sign of things to come.

Leinster now need to win tomorrow (which they should) and at The Rec next week to get one of the runners up spots. If they do, they could end up back at Bath in the quarters.
 
Well if we qualify and face Bath again in the quarters that wouldn't be the end of the world, afterall we would have won the pool match there so it wouldn't hold too many fears for the players.

If not Bath then one of Toulouse, Munster or Sale, ouch. Munster at home in Europe are unbeatable, I'd be amazed if Munster allowed such a match to be played at Lansdowne, Toulouse at home again is a mamoth task, as would Sale away with the form they've shown this season.

Fair play to Bath for getting through, albeit with the help of Shitehouse in the RDS, sorry can't let that one go.
 
Originally posted by An Tarbh@Jan 14 2006, 09:38 AM
Well if we qualify and face Bath again in the quarters that wouldn't be the end of the world, afterall we would have won the pool match there so it wouldn't hold too many fears for the players.

If not Bath then one of Toulouse, Munster or Sale, ouch. Munster at home in Europe are unbeatable, I'd be amazed if Munster allowed such a match to be played at Lansdowne, Toulouse at home again is a mamoth task, as would Sale away with the form they've shown this season.

Fair play to Bath for getting through, albeit with the help of Shitehouse in the RDS, sorry can't let that one go.
Fair enough. We got the rub of the green in some potentially pivotal positions, but we had your front row in all sorts of trouble for the full 80 and rarely got the decision. Either way, doesn't matter now.

It'll be interesting to see if tonight was just a flash in the pan, or it Ashton is actually doing something decent. I expect most people will see Bath as the weakest team in the quarters. We just can't let it go to waste like a few seasons ago when we qualified as top seeds only to get turned over by Llanelli at home in the quarters.
 
Munster have routed Castres. POC was influential once again, he's right back on form now, he's angry and is scoring tries. Thats around 5 since he's come back. TOL came on the wing and scored two support run tries. He's got bags of pace, but having him on the wing is gonna do flip all for his development as a scrum half.
 
Was thinking the same thing about O'Leary as well, had to put up with Live95 commentary again, Christ he's useless, was funny though when he shut up you could hear Gerry Thornley whingeing in the background and Michael Corcoran from RTÉ.

POC coming back to form is huge, no doubt he'll continue in same vein next weekend and can carry it into the 6N, he's really putting the Lions tour behind him, think he'll be changing some people's opinion of him after his recent performances.
 
Originally posted by Boy+Jan 13 2006, 11:28 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Boy @ Jan 13 2006, 11:28 PM)</div>
<!--QuoteBegin-An Tarbh
@Jan 14 2006, 09:38 AM
Well if we qualify and face Bath again in the quarters that wouldn't be the end of the world, afterall we would have won the pool match there so it wouldn't hold too many fears for the players.

If not Bath then one of Toulouse, Munster or Sale, ouch. Munster at home in Europe are unbeatable, I'd be amazed if Munster allowed such a match to be played at Lansdowne, Toulouse at home again is a mamoth task, as would Sale away with the form they've shown this season.

Fair play to Bath for getting through, albeit with the help of Shitehouse in the RDS, sorry can't let that one go.
Fair enough. We got the rub of the green in some potentially pivotal positions, but we had your front row in all sorts of trouble for the full 80 and rarely got the decision. Either way, doesn't matter now.

It'll be interesting to see if tonight was just a flash in the pan, or it Ashton is actually doing something decent. I expect most people will see Bath as the weakest team in the quarters. We just can't let it go to waste like a few seasons ago when we qualified as top seeds only to get turned over by Llanelli at home in the quarters. [/b]
Commentary team on BBC didn't sound overly convinced of Barkley playing at 10, although he's been playing in the centre hasn't he?
 
He has been playing 12 mostly, mainly due to Connolly deciding that was his best position and never giving him a run at 10. Sounded like he struggled in the first half, but came into his own in the second. I prefer him at 10, especially for Bath, as he plays so much flatter than Malone or Dunne. Hopefully he'll actually be able to show himself as a playmaker under Ashton, as he's seemingly been told not to for the past three years.
 
O'Leary has suffering from "being put on the wing" syndrome all his career. He played there for ireland under 21's in the world cup and also for his club when he was younger. Stringer was okish tonight mind you.

POC is gonna restore his name in the 6N. He's gonna beat the shite outta Wales at Lansdowne, nobody felt the bitterness of the defeat in Cardiff last year more than him.
 
I think missing the Autumn internationals has made him realise his importance and he just seems to be kncukling down and doing the job he's good at, natural pack leader and can only inspire the other forwards around him to lift their game.

Wales match will be huge for us, likely that we'll lose in Paris so we'll need to seriously restore pride when we get back to Dublin.
 
Originally posted by Boy@Jan 14 2006, 10:50 AM
I prefer him at 10
Dude, I know you didn't see it, but Molly passing the ball between his legs straight to Cheese was awesome, admittedly we were a few points up by then and it was into injury time, but still!
 
Perpignan have one foot in the quarter finals after todays victory in Cardiff, more worrying news for the Welsh with Gareth Thomas going off injured in the Wasps match today, ST booking their place with a 19-13 defeat of the English champions. Awesome break by Michalak in the buildup to Thomas' try.
 
yes was worrying but im hoping he'll be ok for the england game - tolous looked very solid in defence and lethal when going forward - there offloads at times are exceptional.
 

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