For talking rot.

[Feicarsinn]

I see we have a couple of beliebers here. Money doesn't buy happiness nor puberty. He will be a crack addict and be dead before 40 then no is laughing to the bank

Just out of interest, why do you seem so set on him failing? Now, let's make one thing clear, I'm not a fan of Justin Beiber. His music is bad, his fans are generally idiots, and a lot of what he says is very twatish. That said, I have no problem with him being successful. There's always going to be a big pop act that is adored by the mainstream labels and immensely disliked by everyone else. You say money doesn't buy happiness. Perhaps that's true, but being successful in the field you've always dreamed of being in no doubt does.

If it wasn't him it would be someone else. It don't dislike the guy on a personal level, but more the system that created him.

 

[TRF_heineken]

It would be awesome if there wasn't a caption or ***le to that photo... and then just spread it all around Australia... just imagine the street riots!!

 

[TRF_Olyy]

It's not rocket, it's a hippy electric car. Kill that with fire an' all

 

[Shovenose]

Just out of interest, why do you seem so set on him failing? Now, let's make one thing clear, I'm not a fan of Justin Beiber. His music is bad, his fans are generally idiots, and a lot of what he says is very twatish. That said, I have no problem with him being successful. There's always going to be a big pop act that is adored by the mainstream labels and immensely disliked by everyone else. You say money doesn't buy happiness. Perhaps that's true, but being successful in the field you've always dreamed of being in no doubt does.

If it wasn't him it would be someone else. It don't dislike the guy on a personal level, but more the system that created him.

You make it sound like I have said it 20 times in this thread? What happen to 99 percent of these young stars who looked so happy when you see them and had a **** load of money?

 

[Feicarsinn]

You make it sound like I have said it 20 times in this thread? What happen to 99 percent of these young stars who looked so happy when you see them and had a **** load of money?

Same thing that happens to everyone else really. They **** about in their 20's then settle down after a while. Only thing is that they have far larger budgets to **** about on, so occasionally things go awry.

 

[Shovenose]

Same thing that happens to everyone else really. They **** about in their 20's then settle down after a while. Only thing is that they have far larger budgets to **** about on, so occasionally things go awry.

Heath Ledger agrees

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

It's not the actual Bieber himself, it's the Bieliebers that I hate. For example it's not Biebers fault that articles like this are written.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/16/justin-bieber-style-the-s_n_1677450.html

 

[lucky number 7]

I see we have a couple of beliebers here. Money doesn't buy happiness nor puberty. He will be a crack addict and be dead before 40 then no is laughing to the bank

Money Can buy happiness , not directly but the capacity to do whatever the **** you want can... If you're not happy with millions of dollars , being blessed with good looks and a reasonable amount of talent then you're just a spoilt brat.


His fans annoy me far more than the man himself.

 

[Draggs]

I really have nothing against Bieber. I don't listen to his crap, don't pay attention to what he says.
The people that really **** me off are those that always whinge about him, and everything he does.
Jealousy of his popularity and money?

 

[Groundhog]

It's not the actual Bieber himself, it's the Bieliebers that I hate. For example it's not Biebers fault that articles like this are written.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/16/justin-bieber-style-the-s_n_1677450.html

I take the point. Bieber's like a more popular better looking, younger version of Springsteen

 

[big ginger 8]

I don't like the idea of a Justin Bieber if you understand me. I don't like what I think he stands for but I suppose fair play for doing so well for himself.

 

[Draggs]

I don't like the idea of a Justin Bieber if you understand me. I don't like what I think he stands for but I suppose fair play for doing so well for himself.

No, I understand you quite well.
I think it shows the poor state of popular music, but we can thank Walsh, Cowell, et al for that.

 

[big ginger 8]

No, I understand you quite well.
I think it shows the poor state of popular music, but we can thank Walsh, Cowell, et al for that.

Yeah I get lambasted by friends for playing music that is not mainstream or modern (though the standard for modern keeps changing I was told a song that is two years old is "old" the other day. Now I don't want to force my music on people but I will not listen to some of the other crap that comes out now where the only person who is utilizing talent is the technical producer.

 

[Draggs]

Yeah I get lambasted by friends for playing music that is not mainstream or modern (though the standard for modern keeps changing I was told a song that is two years old is "old" the other day. Now I don't want to force my music on people but I will not listen to some of the other crap that comes out now where the only person who is utilizing talent is the technical producer.

Fair play to you. If people like modern mainstream music that's fine, it's just not my cup of tea.

 

[Feicarsinn]

People complaining about mainstream music always strikes me as lazy and quite frankly pointless and a bit dim. You have to understand that mainstream music is aimed at a demographic of about 8-16, primarily girls. Essentially, the age before you actually go out and start looking for music to listen to and you're incredibly impressionable. By about the age of 18 or 20 you shouldn't give a toss what's in the charts, because it isn't aimed at you any more.

So leave it be. The likes of Bieber, Katy Perry, etc. are there to make money off teens and tweens, something record labels have become exceptionally good at. There's more good music out there at the moment than there's been since the late 60's due to the internet. You no longer have to wait for an artist of band to be presented to you, you can go out and find the most promising acts in your genre with a few clicks.

Anyway, I don't even think pop music is in all that bad a state at the moment. Admittedly the likes of Nicki Manaj and David Guetta are blights on the planet, but there are a lot of catchy tunes being made at the moment. Not near as bad as around 3 years ago.

Now what's really sad is the decline of Hip Hop since the early 90's. That's a bloody tragedy.

 

[Draggs]

See, I never complain about the music on the charts, I just choose not to listen to it.
Fair play to Bieber and the lot for using the system.

 

[Groundhog]

Yea I saw that photo a while back myself, it's ridiculous. I hate it when reasonably talented singers become gimicked to the point it isn't about the music it's their idiotic antics and private lives that build's opinions. To be honest though I would rate Rihanna as average in talent. It's also irritating when certain....other asset's make you climb to fame.

 

[lucky number 7]

For women artists..

***s> Voice.

 

[Feicarsinn]

Fair play to you. If people like modern mainstream music that's fine, it's just not my cup of tea.

Unfair comparison. Different genres entirely. For example, I could do the exact same in reverse:

​The Trashmen (1963)

A-well-a, everybody's heard about the bird
Bird, bird, bird, b-bird's the word
A-well-a, bird, bird, bird, the bird is the word
A-well-a, bird, bird, bird, well, the bird is the word
A-well-a, bird, bird, bird, b-bird's the word
A-well-a, bird, bird, bird, well, the bird is the word
A-well-a, bird, bird, b-bird's the word
A-well-a, bird, bird, bird, b-bird's the word
A-well-a, bird, bird, bird, well, the bird is the word
A-well-a, bird, bird, b-bird's the word
A-well-a, don't you know about the bird
Well, everybody knows that the bird is the word
A-well-a, bird, bird, b-bird's the word
A-well-a
​

V

Dan le Sac vs Scoobius Pip (2007)

Thou shalt not steal if there is direct victim.
Thou shalt not worship pop idols or follow lost prophets.
Thou shalt not take the names of Johnny Cash, Joe Strummer, Johnny Hartman, Desmond Decker, Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix or Syd Barret in vain.
Thou shalt not think that any male over the age of 30 that plays with a child that is not their own is a peadophile… Some people are just nice.
Thou shalt not read NME.
Thall shalt not stop liking a band just because they've become popular.
Thou shalt not question Stephen Fry.
Thou shalt not judge a book by it's cover.
Thou shalt not judge Lethal Weapon by Danny Glover.
Thall shalt not buy Coca-Cola products. Thou shalt not buy Nestle products.
Thou shalt not go into the woods with your boyfriend's best friend, take drugs and cheat on him.
Thou shalt not fall in love so easily.
Thou shalt not use poetry, art or music to get into girls' pants. Use it to get into their heads.

 

[SelimNiai]

Unfair comparison. Different genres entirely. For example, I could do the exact same in reverse:

​The Trashmen (1963)

A-well-a, everybody's heard about the bird
Bird, bird, bird, b-bird's the word
A-well-a, bird, bird, bird, the bird is the word
A-well-a, bird, bird, bird, well, the bird is the word
A-well-a, bird, bird, bird, b-bird's the word
A-well-a, bird, bird, bird, well, the bird is the word
A-well-a, bird, bird, b-bird's the word
A-well-a, bird, bird, bird, b-bird's the word
A-well-a, bird, bird, bird, well, the bird is the word
A-well-a, bird, bird, b-bird's the word
A-well-a, don't you know about the bird
Well, everybody knows that the bird is the word
A-well-a, bird, bird, b-bird's the word
A-well-a
​

V

Dan le Sac vs Scoobius Pip (2007)

Thou shalt not steal if there is direct victim.
Thou shalt not worship pop idols or follow lost prophets.
Thou shalt not take the names of Johnny Cash, Joe Strummer, Johnny Hartman, Desmond Decker, Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix or Syd Barret in vain.
Thou shalt not think that any male over the age of 30 that plays with a child that is not their own is a peadophile… Some people are just nice.
Thou shalt not read NME.
Thall shalt not stop liking a band just because they've become popular.
Thou shalt not question Stephen Fry.
Thou shalt not judge a book by it's cover.
Thou shalt not judge Lethal Weapon by Danny Glover.
Thall shalt not buy Coca-Cola products. Thou shalt not buy Nestle products.
Thou shalt not go into the woods with your boyfriend's best friend, take drugs and cheat on him.
Thou shalt not fall in love so easily.
Thou shalt not use poetry, art or music to get into girls' pants. Use it to get into their heads.

That Dan Le Sac song, in fact that whole album is top notch, should be considered a classic of that decade.