European Region - General Discussion Thread

[Thingimubob]

TRF ID: Thingimubob
Platform: XBOX 360
Gamertag: Thingimubob

1st team: Wales
2nd team: Italy
3rd team: Japan

Like the idea of pools then finals, voted 5 mins for pools and 10 for finals too. I think it all depends on what type of scores we get from 5 mins matches compared to 10 min ones. We could end up with scored of 65-52 in a 20min long match compared to a 32 - 25 in a 10min. Depends whether we're aiming for realistic scores or not, won't out which one gives us that until we play the game anyway.

Conal has a point too, but I think it should follow in-game rankings rather than tiers. For example if I pick Wales as my 1st choice and they're rated 83 I can't pick anyone higher than that for my 2nd choice.
Also, a heads up, my connection at home is bloody awful. I haven't even tried online gaming on my 360 yet as its pretty damn unpredictable, might have a crack at Red Dead online to see how it goes. But yeah I'm not the type who quits when I'm losing anyway (hell if I end up as Italy or Japan and are getting trounced by people I don't mind, will celebrate every try and kick I manage to score as a mini-victory) just I am seriously worried about connection issues.

 

[TRF C A Iversen]

TRF ID: Thingimubob
Platform: XBOX 360
Gamertag: Thingimubob

1st team: Wales
2nd team: Italy
3rd team: Japan

Like the idea of pools then finals, voted 5 mins for pools and 10 for finals too. I think it all depends on what type of scores we get from 5 mins matches compared to 10 min ones. We could end up with scored of 65-52 in a 20min long match compared to a 32 - 25 in a 10min. Depends whether we're aiming for realistic scores or not, won't out which one gives us that until we play the game anyway.

Conal has a point too, but I think it should follow in-game rankings rather than tiers. For example if I pick Wales as my 1st choice and they're rated 83 I can't pick anyone higher than that for my 2nd choice.
Also, a heads up, my connection at home is bloody awful. I haven't even tried online gaming on my 360 yet as its pretty damn unpredictable, might have a crack at Red Dead online to see how it goes. But yeah I'm not the type who quits when I'm losing anyway (hell if I end up as Italy or Japan and are getting trounced by people I don't mind, will celebrate every try and kick I manage to score as a mini-victory) just I am seriously worried about connection issues.

Thanks for your feedback Thingimubob. Appreciate the heads up about your connection. It's good that your open about that. It's part of why we're regionalising our comps to start with.

Will take your other points on board, I'm sure you'll realise that it's all about averaging out opinions over the next few days, and making a choice that reflects what the majority feel is a good idea.

Like the idea about 2nd and third choice not being better than your preference for a home side, but there are a few Welsh people who seem to genuinely like Ireland and France as other options, because they like the teams, not because they want to take better squads. Still, there's room for discussion over the next few days and that's what this is all about.

 

[Thingimubob]

Awesome stuff yeah you have got a point about people picking teams they like (hence the fact I picked Italy, always beena big fan of them), plenty of ways to sort it out so everyones happy!
Hopefully in around 3 or 4 weeks (so while the world cup in in full swing) I'll be moved into my new house in Swansea ready for the new year of Uni, with a 30mb or 40mb connection so all should be good connection wise when I do!

 

[Feicarsinn]

TRF name: Feicarsinn
Platform: xbox360
Gamertag: Feicarsinn

Competition Format: Round Robin please

Preferred team: France
Secondary team: Canada
Tertiary team: Ireland

 

[Kingnick]

TRF ID: Kingnick
Platform: PS3
Gamertag: kingnick678

Agree all conditions

Pools 5 min half and finals 10 min half


1st team: Ireland
2nd team: Argentina
3rd team: Fiji

 

[Duckdee]

Ok, 3 teams:

Japan
Georgia
Namibia

i ain't gonna beatin' nobody anyways, might as well leave the good teams to yous guys!

 

[DorceOutSide]

TRF name: DorceOutSide
Platform: xbox360
Gamertag: eoinmc98


Competition Format: pools then semi finals then finals.
Preferred team: Ireland
Secondary team: Canada
Tertiary team: Wales

 

[TRF C A Iversen]

Good info on the competition format. It looks at this stage that it's pools and then finals. It could go straight to semis, as that's what I've heard the most, but remember, if your one of the guys who finished narrowly second in a pool and felt you could've won that pool, you might feel a little aggrieved that you didn't get to fight your way back into the tourney with a quarter final.

Can only put forward what gets said to me though and this isn't my comp (I'll be in Oceania), this is yours.



Edit: Here's some interesting info on potential disconnect rules. Your feedback please.

The rule for disconnects will likely be something similar to:

If one player is in front by more than 14pts in the 2nd half at the time of disconnect then they win the game.

If a disconnect happens after the 65th minute (or in the 1min vicinty of) then if the team leading is leading by 7pts or more, then they will be awarded the win.

If games disconnect in the 1st half, more often than not it'll be a legitimate connection issue. In the case of persistent connection issues, an attempt to replay will be made a few times until each user has tried enough and if no luck, then please discuss that in the fixture threads that will be located here at that time.

People's connections are their own issue and we need to be as fair as possible. We can't ourselves run an overly complex system for combating this kind of potential cheating and these are the best methods we have at a forum level for ensuring a game goes most of the distance.

Please bear in mind that we do want a competition that people enjoy and we may look at measures of removing people from competitions who seem to consistently have a connection issue when people are coming back into a game. If we get the word from a number of other members, then that'll build up a profile of who may or may not be included in future comps also.

It's likely that these competitions will not commence until at least one week after release, to enable people to purchase the game and upskill themselves somewhat. So this may also tie in reasonably closely to the start of the actual cup.

Given the speeds at which video game tourneys can complete, it may not run for the duration of the world cup.

 

[Feicarsinn]

I'm quite happy that we've got a bunch of established users in as opposed to a bunch of n00bs. It makes you feel a tad more confident that these games are going to go ahead.

 

[TRF_Ezequiel]

I will be joining too! On PS3, once I get my hands on the game, which won't be immediately when it comes out.

When it comes to the length of the matches, I think everything is okay. As long as the people don't quit when they are behind

 

[cimbomjubi82]

TRF name: cimbomjubi82 (Fa'atau82 in a previous life)
Platform: xbox360
Gamertag: jubigala

10 min halves all the way. Should see how realistic the game online is though really, or it'll be nearer cricket scores.

Preferred team: France
Secondary team: Georgia
Tertiary team: Tonga

 

[matt869]

Xbox gamertag : matt869 I'm open to whatever and agree with the rules above.Preferred team: England and not bothered after that.

 

[jack6161]

TRF name: jack6161
Platform: PS3
Gamertag: J2CK_P3RRY

Happy to follow the rules and commit to them.

Competition Format: Pools then QF, Semi, 3rd Place Playoff and Final (5 min halves in pool matches and 10 min halves in knock out matches)
Preferred team: England
Secondary team: Australia
Tertiary team: France

Also if you need any help setting things up I'm willing to contribute

 

[TRF C A Iversen]

Well it's appearing that the games may be 5 min games through the pools and then people will have a bigger chance to get back into a game from the quarters onwards with 10min games. I suppose that'll reflect the knock-out nature well and give those who have a bad first half time to get back into things. Still, that poll isn't over yet.

Looking forward to some feedback on our handling of the disconnect possibilities. I guess we do all have to realise that there's only so much can be done and if someone does show themselves to be consistently suffering from "disconnects" at moments that don't suit them, we'll get feedback from you all and that may affect eligibility for further comps too. If your connection is subject to erratic behaviour whilst gaming it might best to not sign onto something that requires a reasonably solid connection.

Thanks guys for the feedback on various aspects of the tourneys and we are looking forward to more of it to help develop our tourneys.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Just about the disconnections, you could make the rule that if you disconnect when you're 7-10 points down or disconnect in the last 5-10 minutes when you're losin you forfeit the match. Just an idea it would need a bit of work but that sort of thing should work.

 

[TRF_Ezequiel]

How do we arrange this?

Do we make a screenshot/photo of the end result? Or is there a special feature with an online league in which the results are saved automatically?

 

[jack6161]

TRF name: jack6161
Platform: Xbox 360
Gamertag: PH1L2P3RRY

Competition Format: Pools then Knockout stage (Quaters, Semis and Final with 3rd Place Playoff) (5 minute halves in pool matches, 10 minute halves in knockout stages)
Preferred team: England
Secondary team: South Africa
Tertiary team: New Zealand

 

[raziel_eire]

Lads (and lasses where appropriate!), can anyone tell me why those of you who have said, prefer 5mins for the group stages games as opposed to the 10min option? Are we in a rush to get all group games played in one night or something?

I can understand choosing specific half-lengths to allow for a realistic scoreline, but having a variation in between group and knock-out stages doesn't support that as the reason.

Not saying its the wrong choice, I'm just honestly interested in why people have made that choice?

For me, I'd like to enjoy each game the same way, being able to play the same way... I feel that shorter half-lengths in the group stages will push a "running rugby" tactic on players in the panic to qualify from their groups when they might actually prefer to play the game with a different, slower, strategic mind-set. Anyone's thoughts?

 

[sackomania]

I agree with raziel, 10 min all the way!!

Lets do this

 

[04perryo]

i would join in but im too busy with f**king gcse's