England v South Africa

[cyRil]

53-3.

 

[Sker]

58-10

 

[Shedhead #1]

Can't understand the calls for Allen to be put into the centres. Not even close to the best option at centre for Eng and should be nowhere near the side.

As for suggesting that Pieterson and Chilliboy are losses for SA, thats bordering on insane. Chilliboys performance against Wales was laughable and almost cost them the game. How any so-called hooker can come on and miss the worlds greatest lineout jump by 10 feet on 3 consecutive occasions is a mystery!

 

[TRF_Ezequiel]

I think this will be the revenge for the 2007 group match. 36-0 back then won't be the score this time but something similar. I think Steyn will convert 4 or 5 penalties but 36-15 is a reasonable result considering the situation

 

[veux]

53-3.

This isn't the NZ vs Wales thread.

 

[cyRil]

This isn't the NZ vs Wales thread.

You MAD?! We're never gonna put 50 points on them!

 

[Jer1cho]

lol.

If we play twice as good as we did against Scotland, we will lose by 20 points.

If we do however lose by a big margin, I will be certain that my theory of the players boycotting this coaching staff all year to try to get them fired is true. DUM DUM DUUUUUUUUUUUUUM.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

I don't think SA will play half as badly as people seem to expect them to,
I think England by 10 or so is most likely, however I wouldn't be surprised to see a smaller margin, or even a Bok win.
Yes they have someone on day-release as head coach, but the class in their team is undeniable and they only need to ignore everything the backroom staff tells them to be a much scarier team

 

[TRF_Ezequiel]

Funny thing is that exactly a week ago people thought Scotland would play miserable because of the big loss against the All Blacks.

 

[Amobokoboko]

Does anyone know which channel will have a live broadcast of the match? I've watched the matches against Ireland, Wales and Scotland on BBC1 but for some reason none of the England matches seem to be shown live on BBC. Is there something with the tv rights of the English team or something? BBC only has highlights later that night

Sentenza or sky

 

[mohamed_ali12]

England: B Foden (Northampton); C Ashton (Northampton), M Tindall (Bath), S Hape (Bath), M Cueto (Sale); T Flood (Leicester), B Youngs (Leicester); A Sheridan (Sale), D Hartley (Northampton), D Cole (Leicester), C Lawes (Northampton), T Palmer (Stade Francais), T Croft (Leicester), L Moody (Leicester, capt), N Easter (Harlequins).

Replacements: S Thompson (Leeds), D Wilson (Bath), S Shaw (Wasps), H Fourie (Leeds), D Care (Harlequins), C Hodgson (Sale), M Banahan (Bath).

England team - hope they can click again and put in a massive performance.

When did Tindall move back to Bath, and when did Moody go back to Leicester?

BBC Rugby is horrifically inaccurate

 

[Teh Mite]

Typical BBC article-f-up.

 

[TRF_Ezequiel]

Thanks for the recommendations. Got a PM from a respectable TRF-member with the best option though

Justin time

 

[Teh Mite]

Lawes spoiling for a dust up:

Ahead of England's showdown with South Africa this weekend, Courtney Lawes reckons fearsome Springbok second rowers Bakkies Botha and Victor Matfield will find him no pushover.
The 21-year-old Northampton lock will have his mettle tested to the limit at Twickenham - Botha having gained a reputation as the enforcer of a physical pack, while Matfield is widely considered to be the world's leading lineout forward.
But Lawes says he is relishing the opportunity to take on the pair and promised to be an aggressive, yet controlled presence on Saturday.
"They are big, physical guys and they like to throw that around but I'm not scared of them and if they want to run into me, they can go ahead," said Lawes.
"I am pretty big and physical myself. I will enjoy the challenge. What's (Botha) going to do - is he going to start having a fist fight?
"If he does then he's going to end up off the pitch and that's fine by me. I am happy to play against 14 men. I will stay on the pitch and keep smiling while he is in the dug-out.
"I don't get wound up. I don't get rattled. I like a bit of a fight... well, not a fight but a scuffle every now and again.
"But I don't take anything to heart and get angry, so I don't go after anyone. I get my shots in legally. I would never throw a punch in a game. Not even a short punch."
Attitude

The attitude Lawes wants to bring to the match against the world champions is just the sort England manager Martin Johnson desires.
"It is nose-to-nose," said Johnson. "That is how they want to play and good on them. We want to be a physical, conforntational, intimidating team too. That is rugby.
"The fundamentals of the game are you can't be knocked back in contact. You can't be losing rucks and mauls."
Besides having a commanding lineout presence, Lawes also has the skills needed by a modern day international forward, as proven the release that led to Chris Ashton's stunning try against Australia.
Johnson also thinks Lawes has the necessary character to mix it with the likes of Botha.
"The first few contacts of the game are massive. We have to show them we are here to win this game. We have to set the theme for the rest of the game," Lawes added.
"I never think twice, even if I know I am going to go backwards I will still throw myself in there.
"There are some bigger boys than me around who might get over the gainline but I will keep throwing myself in there and I won't take a backward step.
"I've had some pretty decent performances and that gives me confidence - but I know that I still have quite a lot to give. I want to keep improving."
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12321_6527030,00.html

34th minute.

Lawes smashes Pienaar with trademark SH snapper.
Botha over-reacts
Lawes laughs at Botha
Botha awarded a 10 minute time out
Botha head-butts Lawes in the back of the head walking away
Lawes laughs at Botha
World laughs at Botha
Botha awarded lifetime ban
World rejoices.

 

[eot345]

Lawes vs botha = Steve Thompson coming on and destroying Botha

 

[whitto2008]

Lawes vs botha = Steve Thompson coming on and destroying Botha

why you rate thompson so much? yes he won world cup in 2003 but that was 7 years ago... hes to old now

 

[SelimNiai]

why you rate thompson so much? yes he won world cup in 2003 but that was 7 years ago... hes to old now

And he's also walking/waddling proof that the new style rugby shirts do not work on the front row.

 

[Teh Mite]

They don't work on the Guinness guzzling fans either.

 

[Peat]

Thommo might be an old fatty fat fat, but he's still quality.

That is all.

Also, it's not a BBC error. Jonno would never pick a Leicester play who'd gone to Bath, and dislikes picking Gloucester players, so both Moody and Tindall are lying to him.

This explains the inclusion of Hape and Banahan actually. Johnson just told them to pick the Bath 13.

Scientific Fact gentlemen.

 

[eot345]

why you rate thompson so much? yes he won world cup in 2003 but that was 7 years ago... hes to old now

i dont rate him that highly as an english rugby player he just looks very scary thats all.. he'is probably the scariest english rugby player