England v Japan - 24/11/2024 (16.10)

[Lé Ddanno]

What are Japan's forwards like at the moment? Their second row is tidy but beyond that I don't really know. Can they handle an arm wrestle and get one over on us with a bit of backs magic at the right time?

 

[Becca]

What are Japan's forwards like at the moment? Their second row is tidy but beyond that I don't really know. Can they handle an arm wrestle and get one over on us with a bit of backs magic at the right time?

I jolly well hope not !

 

[AlRums]

What are Japan's forwards like at the moment? Their second row is tidy but beyond that I don't really know. Can they handle an arm wrestle and get one over on us with a bit of backs magic at the right time?

Apparently their star number eight is back. He didn't play in the June game.

 

[Booboobang]

What are Japan's forwards like at the moment? Their second row is tidy but beyond that I don't really know. Can they handle an arm wrestle and get one over on us with a bit of backs magic at the right time?

Their props are pretty good in the loose, number8 is good, locks tidy. From watching them, talented, but gas early.

 

[IT157]

Roebuck in the squad! I guess TRF_Olyy can die a happy man.

 

[Geordie]

We need to see a good performance tomorrow. Both in attack and defence...

 

[Saintjay]

Well no upsets so far this weekend.

 

[Lé Ddanno]

Well no upsets so far this weekend.

Dunno which result counts as an upset for Sco vs Aus

 

[AlRums]

Dunno which result counts as an upset for Sco vs Aus

Only if you count that if Australia win then Australia go above Scotland and England in the world rankings. On the other hand if England lose then they go down to 10th below Fiji.

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

Yep, although you can just see us trying to match Japan and run the ball at every available opportunity.

Oh god, I thought I was joking.

England v Japan: Steve Borthwick defends playing style despite poor run

England head coach Steve Borthwick urges his players to persist with an attacking style of play despite three defeats this autumn.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[BPM]

Can't really win though? Playing expansively is apparently a bad idea but if we play ugly, we'll be criticised for it too.

Playing running rugby is only a bad idea if we do it badly or the conditions don't suit it.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Oh god, I thought I was joking.

England v Japan: Steve Borthwick defends playing style despite poor run

England head coach Steve Borthwick urges his players to persist with an attacking style of play despite three defeats this autumn.

www.bbc.co.uk

This is a good thing, imo

I don't care if we can maul 3 tries in the rain vs a tier 2 side

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

Playing running rugby is only a bad idea if we do it badly or the conditions don't suit it.

That's exactly where this conversation started though - that the conditions won't suit it.

Nothing against running rugby. But it's more important that we develop the mindset of doing the right thing at the right time. If it's on, run it, if it's not don't. Going into a match determined to run everything is as dumb as deciding you're going to kick everything.

Either way, there's no real upside for SB today.

 

[BPM]

100% this.

In other news, Stephen Jones is calling for Marcus Smith to be dropped, with one of Ford, Fin or Charlie Atkinson coming in to replace him.

What a douche that guy is. Absolutely hates Marcus and Quins to a ridiculous extent.

He also wants Dingwall to start with Cokanasiga and Northmore others he name checks. Thacker on the bench. Laughable.

 

[TommiG88]

100% this.

In other news, Stephen Jones is calling for Marcus Smith to be dropped, with one of Ford, Fin or Charlie Atkinson coming in to replace him.

What a douche that guy is. Absolutely hates Marcus and Quins to a ridiculous extent.

He also wants Dingwall to start with Cokanasiga and Northmore others he name checks. Thacker on the bench. Laughable.

I just literally said the same in the England thread. You could feel his sheer disgust for Smith.

 

[Reiser99]

That's exactly where this conversation started though - that the conditions won't suit it.

Nothing against running rugby. But it's more important that we develop the mindset of doing the right thing at the right time. If it's on, run it, if it's not don't. Going into a match determined to run everything is as dumb as deciding you're going to kick everything.

Either way, there's no real upside for SB today.

This is what Warburton was saying. They stick too rigidly to pre-planned tactics and don't play heads up rugby. It was one of the most misleading statements by Jones when he said he wanted England to play heads up rugby. We haven't looked like playing heads up rugby for years.

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

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100% this.

In other news, Stephen Jones is calling for Marcus Smith to be dropped, with one of Ford, Fin or Charlie Atkinson coming in to replace him.

What a douche that guy is. Absolutely hates Marcus and Quins to a ridiculous extent.

He also wants Dingwall to start with Cokanasiga and Northmore others he name checks. Thacker on the bench. Laughable.

Ah, go easy on him, he must be pretty traumatised at the moment being Welsh.

(As he has been since the 70s).

Sometimes he does actually make some fair points although they get lost in the noise and attempts at controversy.

 

[BrokenWing]

We haven't looked like playing heads up rugby for years.

Depends on where you're saying their heads are up

 

[AlRums]

Depends on where you're saying their heads are up

Jones's backside?

 

[BrokenWing]

"If someone's not playing well, Jones isn't afraid to take them off"…………