lol wasn't really being "sensitive" - more just a little bemused. You've got to remember we're not the All Blacks - you lot (rightly) just expect to win and so focus pretty critically on how you win. Generally speaking these days us Wallabies fans are just happy "to win," and so to do what we did blew away a lot of us.
You might not have been expecting England to beat us, but most Aussies were more than a little worried they would given how up and down we generally are.
I suggested this before the tournament... it's likely the referee board rate Barnes even if some people don't. Politically it makes sense as well to have some representation of England in the final.Question: Did this early exit by England pave the way for Wayne Barnes to officiate the final??
Ahah, I missed that. I also can't see where users have posted? Maybe a browser problem? I assume NZ's are the only ones who voted for themselves.
It's a bit more complicated than this. Yes the NRL and AFL Grand Finals were some very shiny objects but the other major factor is that much of the Australian press chose not to cover this Rugby World Cup in protest at the "draconian" media accreditation agreement. News Corp, FairfaxMedia and the Austraian Press Association are all, effectively, not covering the tournament and this has the knock on effect of diminished coverage in the other major Australian media outlets.To be honest mate the timing of this game was really unfortunate... It was sandwiched in between both the AFL and NRL Grand Finals, meaning it failed to make the front or back page of any newspaper in the country.
It wasn't helped by the fact that the NRL Grand Final was one of the all time most epic and nail biting games the competition has seen though.
For a bit of perspective on the national coverage of it, the ABC have a weekly sports round up program every Sunday morning called "offsiders" that goes for about 30 minutes. They spoke about the match for all of 3 minutes in between about 13 minutes each for the AFL and NRL (and the NRL hadn't even started) AND they didn't even get a union journo on the show - just directed their questions the the herald's League veteran.
That about sums up Rugby's place in our national psyche right now though sadly.
I think you might be in for a shock if you think the Kiwis have any more love for England than we do... They hate us to bits, and yet most kiwis in the press and around here seemed to be supporting the Wallabies against England!
Also, "judging by what [you've] read over the past couple days" you sense that Aussie fans enjoy a win over England?
Just curious, but is this the first time you've ever watched an England v Australia sporting contest? About the only sport we DON'T take an inordinate amount of pleasure in beating England is Rugby League, and that's because we've just won too many.
To be fair I know we beat you at cricket and football pretty easy so it was about time you lot managed to get a win over us in the RWC
To be fair I know we beat you at cricket and football pretty easy so it was about time you lot managed to get a win over us in the RWC
This vote is ruined.
4 are supporting France?
Stick with the traditions, we can't be supported by Saxons, Jutes or Angles !
No thanks.
Support by Scottish, Welsh and Irish is always welcome.
Go Celts!
They aren't "Celts". That's just an invention of 18th century Scottish, Welsh and Irish nationalists who wanted to try and make it look as though they are different from the English. The Scottish, Welsh and Irish are no more "Celtic" than the English are.
I'm Argentinian now. Easy decision, have considered them my second team ever since they entered the RC for a couple of reasons:
1) Pure admiration for what they have achieved in rugby despite historic disadvantages (no professional league; and far fewer top tier matches) - 2007 specifically but their place at the top(ish) table in general
2) I can't bring myself to support the Aussies, the All Blacks or the Saffas so a competition featuring only those three killed me. Glad to have a team in the SH I can actually support with a clean conscience!
3) Have a thing for Hispanic / Latin culture, learnt Spanish at school and it's a beautiful language attached to some lovely cultures. And spoken by some absolutely stunning, sexy women ... you haven't truly had sex until you've had sex in Spanish. Fact
Question: Did this early exit by England pave the way for Wayne Barnes to officiate the final??
Lacey is favorite for Final if Ireland don't make it.
Are you a Breton ?
I think the ***le thread is very clear, "England fans" who are you backing now?
Pretty funny to see kiwis voting for New Zealand, french voting for France, etc...