England 6 Nation squad 2024

[Vieux Talonneur]

Wow. Must see content!

Presumably the social media guy had a target to meet.

 

[higgik]

Nah Will Evan's with our 8's makes our back row very understranghted imo

Unless, you go Roots, Dombrandt and Evans.

 

[Geordie]

Don't don't forget we'll have Big Ted back rampaging aswell...hopefully sooner rather than later

 

[IT157]

Don't don't forget we'll have Big Ted back rampaging aswell...hopefully sooner rather than later

Aren't his stats awful, so Borthwick isn't even considering him?

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Wonder if part of that is why Barbeary's not been parachuted in yet?
I remember seeing in an article that his defence stats aren't great

But then I bet his gainline success/metres made after contact are through the roof

SB in front of his spreadsheet

 

[Which Tyler]

Surely Barbeary stil can't be parachuted in without an injury, regardless of his stats

 

[Geordie]

Aren't his stats awful, so Borthwick isn't even considering him?

Thats what they say...and yet prior to his injury he seemed to be putting in good game after good game.

Imagine baths back row...at full form and fitness...
6 Hill
7 Underhill
8 Barbeary

 

[Pieter Steph du Teague]

Hill isn't the best 6 at Bath

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Surely Barbeary stil can't be parachuted in without an injury, regardless of his stats

It's a weird one, I'm not sure if the rules have changed - they're naming squads week by week, and you've got guys like George Martin training with the squad
He's named in the walking wounded list but you'd imagine he'll be in the squad once fit but wasn't named in the initial one (they always used to name the injured player and their replacement, in the past)

 

[Lé Ddanno]

Hill isn't the best 6 at Bath

Quite.

I can't see anyone outside the current 23 other than maybe Genge, MSmith, Furbank and Biggest George getting into a matchday squad soon. I live in hope of being surprised.

 

[Lé Ddanno]

Honestly Paul Hill should be in with a better claim than Ted Hill

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

Have we got a total list of the walking wounded training with the squad?

Martin, Watson, Lawrence. Can't think of any others and a little google can't seem to find a list.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Martin, Watson, Lawrence. Can't think of any others and a little google can't seem to find a list.

Manu was initially there, but not any more

I think it might just be Martin now, they tend to name them week by week and he's the only one mentioned this week

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

Wonder if part of that is why Barbeary's not been parachuted in yet?
I remember seeing in an article that his defence stats aren't great

But then I bet his gainline success/metres made after contact are through the roof

SB in front of his spreadsheet
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Unless his defence is a revolving door I'd ignore that. Barbeary's a point of difference player, not a honest trier workhorse. He's also very good over the ball with a decent off load, so he's not a one trick pony.

We've got plenty of people who'll tackle their hearts out and rack up the numbers (if they're in the right position…..), but we have precious few who can make good ground in heavy traffic. Obviously yet to see what he can do on this stage but I suspect that his carrying will be a bit like Underhill's defence - impactful with the possibility of altering the whole mood of a game.

If CCS, Martin and Barbeary all progress as we hope, our pack might just start to become feared again. When fit, George, Itoje, Undercurry and Earl are all of the required standard. Couple of mountainous scrummaging props would be nice though.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Unless his defence is a revolving door I'd ignore that.

Oh aye, it doesn't bother me (it's not noticeable at club level - obv if it's noticeable at international then that's a different matter but shouldn't impact him getting a shot) - It's Stats Borthwick that it might worry

 

[Duck a l'Orange]

Sky Sports reporting that Ollie Lawrence is nearing a comeback after injury, but won't be available for Wales.

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

Sky Sports reporting that Ollie Lawrence is nearing a comeback after injury, but won't be available for Wales.

Him and Martin both hoped to be available for Scotland.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Under the radar: how Richard Hill is key to England’s next generation | Gerard Meagher

The World Cup-winning flanker keeps a low profile but is one of Steve Borthwick’s most important lieutenants

www.theguardian.com

 

[LIONSxv]

if England can get M Smith, Martin and Lawrence fit for the Scottish game it strengthens us massively. Those three players bring a running and power threat we just don't have at present

 

[Welsh Exile]

I actually hadn't realised Roots was 26, assumed he was early 20s!

And there went the last good reason you could think of to pick him, that he was young and could improve. Alas……