England 2024/25

[Flankers' paradise]

Much more sanguine that I ever was on this. The rules are what they are and if they've been properly complied with and the player's contributed well to the domestic game then that's OK. (Especially if they wear 12).

Would prefer otherwise, but that's the world we live in.

JVR will be 29 when he becomes eligible. It can't be right to hold him for 2 years rather than spend that time developing our young 12's who may be around for longer

 

[Lé Ddanno]

JVR will be 29 when he becomes eligible. It can't be right to hold him for 2 years rather than spend that time developing our young 12's who may be around for longer

I've said this elsewhere but he's still eligible for SA and he's not good enough to get a call up from them, so why should we pick him?. We should be trying to produce some more 12s and nurturing the ones that are coming through, as you suggest.

We had this issue with 7s not so long ago (Wood, Robshaw, Haskell,) and Neil Back appears to have sorted that out, so we can do it again.

 

[Scotty]

I've said this elsewhere but he's still eligible for SA and he's not good enough to get a call up from them, so why should we pick him?. We should be trying to produce some more 12s and nurturing the ones that are coming through, as you suggest.

We had this issue with 7s not so long ago (Wood, Robshaw, Haskell,) and Neil Back appears to have sorted that out, so we can do it again.

I'm mean at 29 he should be in his prime and the rules are what they are so I won't be annoyed if he's picked, if he is the best option, we are lacking at 12s, we need to pick the best and if that's him then that's that. Let the young 12s develop at their clubs and win the place when ready England isn't a development league

Don't get me wrong I'd rather an English 12 but BJVR is a class player and eligible and will have a few years in him.

I'm hoping a young 12 steps up and makes it a moot point but if he gives us the best chance of winning then so be it.

 

[BrokenWing]

We had this issue with 7s not so long ago (Wood, Robshaw, Haskell,) and Neil Back appears to have sorted that out, so we can do it again.

Someone made the point that this could be why we now don't have any 12s and lots of back row.

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

I'm mean at 29 he should be in his prime and the rules are what they are so I won't be annoyed if he's picked, if he is the best option, we are lacking at 12s, we need to pick the best and if that's him then that's that. Let the young 12s develop at their clubs and win the place when ready England isn't a development league

Don't get me wrong I'd rather an English 12 but BJVR is a class player and eligible and will have a few years in him.

I'm hoping a young 12 steps up and makes it a moot point but if he gives us the best chance of winning then so be it.

Spot on.