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England 2021/22

Three AIs this year,
Three tests next summer,
Four AIs next year (usually it's four)
Six Nations x 2

Then throw in probably two Barbarians (or similar) uncapped games, maybe 3 RWC warmups

25 games, 20 capped (or thereabouts)
Which is really the bare minimum experience for a starting XV place in a RWC. And not everyone he tries will work.

Should be evolution but we may get some enforced revolution. But you'd prefer one side of the player / coach equation to be stable.
 
Lions
Tours down South

Personally, I'd be perfectly hapy for Sky to never show another rugby match
TRC/Bledisloe, as well

I had a feeling they'd be losing what little rugby they had when Greenwood said the Lions tour was his last gig commentating at Sky
Not sure if that means he's off to Amazon or they've just cut all the rugby guys loose




Apparently Amazon will be showing 17 games this autumn - wonder if that's everyone minus the Irish (believe that's the deal they had last Autumn?)
They've also branded the autumn internationals as the Autumn Nations Series, so I'm guessing they're looking to make that into a thing(/maybe bring back thje Autumn Nations Cup in the future?)
 
I really didn't like the pictures from Amazon last year. I'm not quite sure how to describe it - there's probably a techie term - but it certainly wasn't the richness of picture quality we're used to.

I hope the 'Autumn Nations Series' is a change in terminology and not the precursor to something more tournament like.
 
Agreed. Presumably that's because it's streamed as opposed to broadcast?

Still happy anyway as I have Prime but not Sky Sports.
 
I really didn't like the pictures from Amazon last year. I'm not quite sure how to describe it - there's probably a techie term - but it certainly wasn't the richness of picture quality we're used to.

I hope the 'Autumn Nations Series' is a change in terminology and not the precursor to something more tournament like.
I can give you the techy terms if you want.....I didn't have an issue but its almost certainly algorithmic about which video codec they are using as opposed to what Sky uses for its satellite services then there's issues with your own bandwidth which might be loosing data or reducing what it claims it can receive. Even then whilst both might be a 4k picture you don't actually get 60fps of pure images or I-Frames you get whole bunch of data which vector information about the difference between frames (P-frames) and different algorithms do it differently.

For more information https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inter_frame for a wikipedia rabbit hole.

Apologies did a whole work project a few years back about doing 1080p streaming for drones over satcom.
 
I can give you the techy terms if you want.....I didn't have an issue but its almost certainly algorithmic about which video codec they are using as opposed to what Sky uses for its satellite services then there's issues with your own bandwidth which might be loosing data or reducing what it claims it can receive. Even then whilst both might be a 4k picture you don't actually get 60fps of pure images or I-Frames you get whole bunch of data which vector information about the difference between frames (P-frames) and different algorithms do it differently.

For more information https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inter_frame for a wikipedia rabbit hole.

Apologies did a whole work project a few years back about doing 1080p streaming for drones over satcom.
Cheers although you might as well have written it in Mandarin for all the sense it makes to me!
 
Who do you think will be the big omissions when it comes to naming the squad for the AI's?

Is someone like Ben Youngs safe?
 
Who do you think will be the big omissions when it comes to naming the squad for the AI's?

Is someone like Ben Youngs safe?
I suspect all the usual suspects will be in the wider squad although we may see some shake ups of the match day 15 / 23.

Captaincy might see a change. Faz has shown time and again that he can't do it and now isn't worth his place in the team either. Lions will have shaken his confidence further. But who?
 
I'm going to stick my neck out and say Farrell to be left out.

I know it's unlikely, but has we all know, he's been out of form for ages and the Lions tour has done him no favours. He barely featured, played pretty poorly when he did and with the rest period, he's got virtually no time to play his way into form.

If I were Eddie, I'd try to mitigate the fallout by publicly saying I'm 'resting him for the AIs'.

Ford generally reacts well to being left out and having had a decent rest, I think he will have a really strong start to the season.

Smith's biggest obstacle is the rest period. Like Farrell he's got very little time to seal a spot. On the other hand he was very good against the Stormers, so Eddie might be more prepared to give him more opportunities.

Quins play Saracens in Round 6 (31st October). It's the week prior before the AIs so I assume the squad will already be selected. If not, it could be a tasty head to head between Smith and Farrell.
 
I keep thinking Billy V...but then i think well except Dombrandt, he's really the only 8 we have...as Tom Willis etc are still coming through.

I agree, i think Farrell could be a big omission.

Im actually wondering about Slade also. If Marchant is in form, and Daly back (i know he splits opinions) and Lawrence hovering etc....Slade is under pressure...as hes never really consistently shone as i expect him to.
 
Can't see Marchant over taking Slade any time soon,
Slade played every minute of the summer tests and Marchant got 20mins on the wing
EJ seems reluctant to play Marchant in the centres, and Slade is very much one of his favourites
 
Slade did, but he was the experience in an inexperiened side.

I just wonder with all players back...if he still holds the same position. I just dont think he give us what we want at 13...despite having to cope with Farrell at 12.
 
On the articles calling for players to be dropped because for being too old, rather than being less good at playing rugby...
Marler is still our best Loosehead, and props can go long into their 30s. If Marler's not there, it'll be because he's made himself unavailable, not because he's too old.
George might find himself on the bench more with LCD really kicking on - but he's still plenty effective, and there's no-one else snapping at his heels.
Launch and Lawes are still 2 of our 3 best locks, with the next generation currently looking to be a step down.
Wilson - pity he was "discovered" late, but there's plenty of competition, and he's had a decent innings despite that.
JJ is still a useful player, but we've got plenty of 13s, and his personal form doesn't justify selection, regardless of age.
May is too good to be discarded on age alone - but he does need to find some (club) form to justify selection.

The other thing I'd say with the older players, and this is me as a fan, I'd probably disagree with myself were I coach - the older established players like the above... you're not going to learn anything new about them by playing them again now; but you may just speed up the introduction of the next generation by leaving them out. You could always spend a year without those old heads, safe in the knowledge that they can come back in if the youngsters fail to take their chances.
I'd keep the older 1st choice players in the squad, and drop the older backups; but tend to put the older starters on the bench (except Marler)



BillyV...
We know he has difficulty motivating himself in training, so I'd imagine that 18 months of playing meaningless rugby will take it's toll on his fitness and he'll take some time to get back up there performance wise. Performance wise, he hasn't justifying his place since RWC2019. He must have used all of his credit in the bank by now. But we know he's got the talent - he just needs to show it, for club, and then we can talk about selecting him for country. Zach may have chosen precisely the wrong year to move to France, as, if Eddie agrees, he's taken himself out of contention at just the moment he may have pushed his case.
Further with Billy, I think we're going to be looking at what we want from our 8, and how we balance the back row and back 5, given the players around them.
We saw some promise (poorly executed as yet) that we're looking for a faster game-plan, moving the point of attack and requiring insanely high fitness / mobility levels from out back 5 - which... isn't really Billy's forte; but could play into the hands of 8s like Mercer, Donbrandt or Willis. If we couple that with Ford and Smith at FH pulling the shots and making the decisions based on that - hopefully allowing Youngs (
:(
) to play on instinct, rather than over-thinking things - and TBF, when he does that, he can be brilliant.
IF we do that, and find a way around the road-block in the 12 shirt (sod it, let's play Barbeary and Simmonds there, it'd still be a step up) then it looks very exciting for England; but not really a game-plan suited to Billy (though it may bring Simmonds closer - depending on balance 4-7).

I'd also say that Slade really needs to prove his worth at this level. He's got 38 caps, and still plays like he's in his second international window - inconsistent and insecure. With Lawrence and Marchant snapping at his heels - I'd be tempted to play both of them alongside each other, and leave Slade on the bench!


1. Marler, 2. LCD, 3. Sinckler
4. Itoje, 5. Iseikwe
6. Curry, 7. Underhill, 8. Donbrandt

9. Youngs (
:(
), 10. Ford
12. Lawrence, 13. Slade
11. Watson, 14. Radwan, 15. Malins

16. George, 17. Mako/Genge, 18. Stuart, 17. Launchbury, 18. Willis
19. FlavourOfTheMonth, 20. Smith, 21. May
 

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