[COVID-19] General Discussion

[TRF_Olyy]

Not sure how other workplaces are gearing up for returning on 19 July? Same kind of mentality? No policy of only bringing back double jabbed people back first and phase to return those when they have plus 2 weeks?

My company went back the first day they were legally allowed,
We get supplied with tests, supposed to test 1-2 times a week,
Hand sanitizer everywhere, signs reminding to social distance etc (ignored)

Feels as if covid isn't a thing tbh

 

[Reiser99]

My company went back the first day they were legally allowed,
We get supplied with tests, supposed to test 1-2 times a week,
Hand sanitizer everywhere, signs reminding to social distance etc (ignored)

Feels as if covid isn't a thing tbh

I work in a primary school and reality is social distancing measures have never worked. Children stuffed into classrooms less than a metre apart. Children from different year groups regularly interacting at breaks because there is not enough space. Teachers moving between bubbles as there is not enough staff to cover. This is with schools who were supposed to be keeping children safe. I can't see many private companies going anywhere near those lengths unless they are forced to by the government.

This is why their approach is so reckless. It's not easing the rules and keeping some guidelines in place, it's basically making it a free for all, where people choose which guidance they want to follow and which they don't. Private companies especially are focused on money, not employee welfare. This is why it will backfire because people will be treating life as though it's before covid when it clearly isn't.

 

[Reiser99]

NHS staff abused by people seeking second Covid jab early for holiday

Doctors say some vaccination centres have had to call police or hire security guards over safety fears

www.theguardian.com

There's a need to get a second jab, but then there's absolutely no need for this just because they want to go on holiday abroad.

People in other countries: *Give us a vaccine or we'll die!*

People in Britain: *Give us a vaccine so I can go get a tan!"

 

[General Melchett]

The first thing many of these morons will do as soon as they touch down abroad is make a beeline for an English or Irish pub.

I've only had one jab but even if I was double jabbed I just can't be arsed with all the PCR testing, queuing with a mask on and uncertainty of countries changing colours and potentially having to quarantine on return.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Expanding on what the editor says in that tweeted video.

Mass infection is not an option: we must do more to protect our young

As the third wave of the pandemic takes hold across England, the UK Government plans to further re-open the nation. Implicit in this decision is the acceptance that infections will surge, but that this does not matter because vaccines have “broken the link between infection and mortality”.1 On...

www.thelancet.com

 

[Kiwiwomble]

Disappointing result, was a good idea

'It's a tragedy': Fijian team ditches plan to wear 'Vaccinate' jerseys against All Blacks

Team members refused to wear pro-vaccination jerseys for the match. A Fijian doctor says their anti-vax stance is "a tragedy".

i.stuff.co.nz

 

[Gavin]

Tracking Coronavirus Vaccinations Around the World

More than 5.55 billion people worldwide have received a Covid-19 vaccine, equal to about 72.3 percent of the world population.

www.nytimes.com

Germany has now vaccinated more people than the UK. So now does that mean the UK doesn't have the fastest rollout in Europe?

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Tracking Coronavirus Vaccinations Around the World

More than 5.55 billion people worldwide have received a Covid-19 vaccine, equal to about 72.3 percent of the world population.

www.nytimes.com

Germany has now vaccinated more people than the UK. So now does that mean the UK doesn't have the fastest rollout in Europe?

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Be interesting to see Germany's split though between first dose and double dose. UK's figure is both = 1st dose 44.8m + double jabbed 34.5m. Germany as far as I know is not ahead when it comes to double jabbing its population yet. Germany has a higher population as well at over 80m compared to 66.7m for UK. UK is cicra. 52% double jabbed.

Updated: https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

Germany are just over 41% of their population double jabbed.

 

[Reiser99]

Covid-19: Masks still expected to be worn indoors after 19 July - Zahawi

England is moving from "you must" wear a mask to "you are expected to", the vaccines minister says.

www.bbc.co.uk

Quote: He added the government wanted to stress "both a personal responsibility and a corporate responsibility" for the matter.

Basically we're still going to say you should wear masks but not make it legal or mandatory. Therefore if there is another wave it will be because the public and businesses weren't being responsible.

 

[General Melchett]

The R rate is going to the moon after tonight. If they thought a Christmas lunch was a superspreader event they ain't seen nothing yet.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

The R rate is going to the moon after tonight. If they thought a Christmas lunch was a superspreader event they ain't seen nothing yet.

Win and there'll a alot of spread from bars pubs staying open late, lose and expect a bit of trouble and criminal damage.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

I’m an intensive care doctor. Covid patients are younger this time

NHS consultant predicts an awful winter with Covid-denier patients, bed shortages and staffing issues

www.theguardian.com

Tory MP fears Boris Johnson will delay Covid restrictions needed after summer

Exclusive: Dan Poulter, who works for the NHS, says measures will probably have to return in England

www.theguardian.com

 

[Bada-Bing!]

The R rate is going to the moon after tonight. If they thought a Christmas lunch was a superspreader event they ain't seen nothing yet.

Euro 2020: All eyes on Wembley as fans watch England in final

Around 60,000 supporters are at the stadium, while millions more are watching in pubs and at home.

www.bbc.co.uk

Looks like it's already happening.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Long Covid: Early findings bring hope for diagnostic tests

Scientists say early research findings could lead to a diagnostic test for those with long-term symptoms.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Bada-Bing!]

So Javid confirming 19 July all restrictions will be lifted and repeating the BS line of "if not then, then when?". Is this Government deaf? By all means go opening up on 19 July, as you've now set your stall on that date, but Why remove remove all restrictions especially the mandate for mask? Especially as 70% have not yet been double vaccinated ? Peeps I have seen going into shops are already not wearing them. Offices/workplaces? The message yet again from this Governmemt is one of confusion.

 

[Yulia]

Many of the Eastern Europeans I work with are very sceptical about covid/vaccines etc so it's nice to see the general populations taking it seriously

Do you mean Poles (+- Baltic Latvians/Lithuanians)? Not sure about Latvians/Lithuanians but I'd say most of people in Poland take it quite seriously. There's more scepticism among my Belarus/Russian/Ukrainian acquaintances as far as I've noticed (but I suppose you work more with the Eastern Europeans from EU countries)
Finally more restrictions in Russia and looks like people started to take vaccination seriously (over 50k people vaccinated only in Moscow every day) : Covid/jab certificates needed for the inner tourism, inside of cafeterias etc,in medias they are still talking about a "voluntary" vaccination while in reality it became almost mandatory (vaccination required by employers etc). Not sure if I like a "mandatory" vaccination (even like that)..but at least it will motivate people

 

[McTallshort]

Do you mean Poles (+- Baltic Latvians/Lithuanians)? Not sure about Latvians/Lithuanians but I'd say most of people in Poland take it quite seriously. There's more scepticism among my Belarus/Russian/Ukrainian acquaintances as far as I've noticed (but I suppose you work more with the Eastern Europeans from EU countries)
Finally more restrictions in Russia and looks like people started to take vaccination seriously (over 50k people vaccinated only in Moscow every day) : Covid/jab certificates needed for the inner tourism, inside of cafeterias etc,in medias they are still talking about a "voluntary" vaccination while in reality it became almost mandatory (vaccination required by employers etc). Not sure if I like a "mandatory" vaccination (even like that)..but at least it will motivate people

Poles and Romanians. Not all but a sizable minority are very vocal about. Refusing to get jabs etc

 

[ncurd]

Already softening the fact restrictions might have to put in place again.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Yep, rhetoric keeps changing from this flip flopping Government. From this easing must be "irreversible" to "we must not rule anything out." Talk about Strong and stable leadership. Oh wait that was May's slogan.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

FDA Warns J&J Covid-19 Vaccine Raises Risk of Guillain-Barré Syndrome Complication

Regulators warned that the Johnson & Johnson vaccine is linked to a very small incidence of cases of a rare neurological disorder associated with other shots.

www.wsj.com