Boxing Thread

[ratsapprentice]

Itoje has 10kg on him. He's Teimana sized (Both 106kg)

AJ weighed in at 110kg for this fight, Itoje is listed as 110kg by England and EPCR.

I don't believe the 116kg Sarries say.

 

[Pieter Steph du Teague]

TBF that is Rugby listed weights which tend to inflate weights.

Considering he looks bigger than Harrison and is 10cm taller i can't see them being the same weight.

I think it's just because Harrison is generally seen next to much bigger guys than AJ is.

 

[ratsapprentice]

Aj is 4 inches taller and significantly more muscular than Teimana.

As I say - AJ weighed 110kg for this fight and probably walks around at least 1-2kg heavier than that.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Aj is 4 inches taller and significantly more muscular than Teimana.

As I say - AJ weighed 110kg for this fight and probably walks around at least 1-2kg heavier than that.

I mean you just have to look at them to see they are not in the same weight class.

Harrison is decent size but he isn't big.

 

[Pieter Steph du Teague]

Aj is 4 inches taller and significantly more muscular than Teimana.

As I say - AJ weighed 110kg for this fight and probably walks around at least 1-2kg heavier than that.

Ah fair enough then, I was just going off of Wikipedia facts, my apologies. Still reckon Itoje's a bit bigger though.

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I'd be interested to see who's stronger out of AJ and Hask.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Wilder wanting AJ this year.

 

[ratsapprentice]

Ah fair enough then, I was just going off of Wikipedia facts, my apologies. Still reckon Itoje's a bit bigger though.

Possibly, but it was supposed to be a rough comparison - it stands; Itoje is a good analogue for AJ in the context of other rugby players.

Doesn't really matter - he's a big dude.
He's not a freak int terms of sheer size, but a big ****er when compared to the general populace.

 

[james5000]

Michael Buffer can't hold a candle to Bruce.

Michael is like Mayweather compared to Bruce's Quicktap McTapper, he is 100x the star hence commanding 100x the salary

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Definitely, I've been thinking how small AJ looks all fight, then I remembered the photo of him next to....Froch? And he looked like something out of a comic book.


Boxing is so frustrating to watch as an MMA nut

I know you miss the men cuddling on the ground, I bet you wish they put jelly in the octagon soon

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Just because he's more famous doesn't make him better - Bruce has way more personality than that robot. Better announcing voice, as well.



I prefer watching them fight on the ground than hug standing up. I'm a big fan of Jiu-Jitsu (wrestling, beyond take downs, I can take or leave), and G&P is some of the most brutal **** you'll see in combat sports.
Boxing just seems so disjointed to me - I was never a boxing fan growing up, and got into MMA way before taking any real interest in boxing. Whenever someone gets too close they just hug until the ref stops them, if they lean on the rope the ref stops it, someone gets knocked down the ref stops it for a bit. Boxing is so start-stop compared to MMA, I can't really get into it. I can definitely appreciate the skills on show, but I'm not a fan of the product as a whole.
Boxing is a sport and MMA is a fight, I guess.

 

[nickdnz]

Well, Parker beat Haumono in the fourth round, though didn't look super convincing in doing it. He never looked in any real trouble (as you would hope against a guy like Haumono) - but it seemed like he just isn't fighting brilliantly on the back foot. He has a good jab, but he was throwing them with single shots the entire time, and so he couldn't really keep his distance. He is still far too upright, yet he so often drops his leading hand. Which is fine if you've got head movement like a prime Roy Jones Jr, but Joseph Parker doesn't, and so he gets caught flush by power punches. When he's getting caught with power punches from someone like Haumono, you have to wonder what happens when it's a real puncher in the division like a Klitschko, Joshua, Wilder, Ortiz or Povetkin. Parker looks to have a very good chin, but not brilliant that it gets tested in fights against fighter outside the divisions top 50.

Apparently a new fighter will be announced this Tuesday. I am really hoping it's against a very credible, tall opponent. Mariusz Wach, Ustinov (although I believe he's fighting Ortiz in an eliminator of sorts), Peter Fury, Browne (not sure if his suspension is over or not), Dahaupas, Helenius, Washington. If he's daring then Pulev. Any of those guys would give Parker at least some relative preparation for the AJ fight.

AJ looks like he's going to have a warm up fight against Stiverne. That's a pretty good development fight for him, although it's not exactly a fight I suspect he'll be in danger of losing. There is also talk of him fighting Pulev (which I can't see happening), but it would be another good development fight.

The division seems like it's going to be a bit quieter for a wee while...still ****** that the Fury v Klitschko fight is in several months time. Really can't stand Fury.

 

[james5000]

Any of you guru's paying to watch Brook vs GGG?
What is the hype like for this fight in the UK?
It is on regular skysport here in NZ.

I like GGG but hate his delusional fans so I don't mind who wins tbh

 

[nickdnz]

Any of you guru's paying to watch Brook vs GGG?
What is the hype like for this fight in the UK?
It is on regular skysport here in NZ.

I like GGG but hate his delusional fans so I don't mind who wins tbh

To be honest I think GGG will murder him. There isn't any advantage I give Brook. GGG is the bigger man in terms of frame, has a longer reach, a better jab, massive amounts more power, cuts off the ring extremely well and has the better punch selection. Can't see Brook making it past seven rounds.

I see a lot of boxing pundits lean to Brook which is bizzare. I'm not a GGG fan boy and it's hard to call him the p4p king until he fights a few more guys like Saunders/Canelo - but I do think he looks like the best middleweight in the world by some distance - whereas I don't think Brook was even the best guy at 147.

 

[McTallshort]

To be honest I think GGG will murder him. There isn't any advantage I give Brook. GGG is the bigger man in terms of frame, has a longer reach, a better jab, massive amounts more power, cuts off the ring extremely well and has the better punch selection. Can't see Brook making it past seven rounds.

I see a lot of boxing pundits lean to Brook which is bizzare. I'm not a GGG fan boy and it's hard to call him the p4p king until he fights a few more guys like Saunders/Canelo - but I do think he looks like the best middleweight in the world by some distance - whereas I don't think Brook was even the best guy at 147.

Kell Brook is an excellent fighter, world class but is a little small. GGG would dearly love to fight both Saunders and Canelo but as Canelo has ducked him completely giving up his belt and Saunders seems to have given up I doubt he will fight either.

The only thing I see in Brooks favour is GGG and his camp seem to already be looking to the next fight and could get caught a little complacent in a similar way Tyson was against Douglas.

It will be a top draw fight and worth paying for more than Mayweather V Pacman or Fat gippo V old Ukrainian bully.

 

[nickdnz]

Not sure I agree with that. I mean Mayweather v Pac and Fury v Klitschko were at least the two best fighters in their division (even if both were poor spectacles). Brook is stepping up two weight classes, to fight a guy who is the best in his class by far - who has beaten guys who have gone onto super-middleweight.

Would anyone expect Andre Ward to move up to Heavyweight and beat Fury? Obviously it isn't THAT extreme - but Kell Brook just doesn't have the frame of a middle weight - or the experience of fighting guys of GGGs level, even in his own division, never mind two levels up.

Really I would say Canelo v GGG is the biggest fight out there - even if Golden Boy clearly wants to part of it.

 

[McTallshort]

Not sure I agree with that. I mean Mayweather v Pac and Fury v Klitschko were at least the two best fighters in their division (even if both were poor spectacles). Brook is stepping up two weight classes, to fight a guy who is the best in his class by far - who has beaten guys who have gone onto super-middleweight.

Would anyone expect Andre Ward to move up to Heavyweight and beat Fury? Obviously it isn't THAT extreme - but Kell Brook just doesn't have the frame of a middle weight - or the experience of fighting guys of GGGs level, even in his own division, never mind two levels up.

Really I would say Canelo v GGG is the biggest fight out there - even if Golden Boy clearly wants to part of it.

It will be a good fight better than both the other fights mentioned but take your point regards best in the same division. GGG problem is no one else seems to want to fight him, Canelo seems terrified of the prospect and Saunders has to be the most inactive champion in history. Eubank jr would be a good choice but negotiating with his dad doesn't seem to be working for GGG and his team.

Kell Brook has a similar problem in his weight division, in that no one wants to fight him either.


Yes GGG should win but Brook will not be a walk over and it wont be an easy fight for him.

 

[nickdnz]

Fight's finally about to start. Ditched a firework show late at night with a girl I'm seeing to watch this one. My priorities are all over the place.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Fight's finally about to start. Ditched a firework show late at night with a girl I'm seeing to watch this one. My priorities are all over the place.

Literally about to get the eurostar to mainland Europe to slap you.
Boxing is the Wendyball of combat sports.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

I always thought throwing in the towel was just an expression, didn't realise that it actually happened.


I've never understood why people love football and I'll never understand why people love boxing, such a poor spectacle.
100% respect the skills of boxing and the toughness of fighters but gamesmanship and spineless referees just ruin it as a sport (a bit like football).

 

[nickdnz]

Was a good fight while it lasted but GGG was just relentless. Obviously did some damage to Brooks eye.

 

[McTallshort]

Was a good fight while it lasted but GGG was just relentless. Obviously did some damage to Brooks eye.

It was but the last 2 rounds were utter murder. Shame for Brook but did you know it's only GGG's second PPV! And it was only PPV because of Brooks draw to the UK audience. It explains why Golvkin agreed to fight in the UK and possibly explains why Canelo or Saunders don't want to fight him. It's a big risk fighting such a dangerous opponent who cannot guarantee a decent fight purse.