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Hardly. It's called being grown up about our differences.
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Which is kind of what Corbyn suggested. Open channels and talk. Just digging your heels in doesn't work.
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Not big on history then?
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Hardly. It's called being grown up about our differences.
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Which is kind of what Corbyn suggested. Open channels and talk. Just digging your heels in doesn't work.
Not at all he is saying we should have open talks with Argentina not that Argentina should try to win them over.
No the Argentinas should have open talk with Falklands and try to win them over.
For starters lifting the embargo on them.
doing nothing things like refusing to allow cruise liners going to Falklands to dock in Argentina, allowing flights to and from and trying to put pressure on other SA countries in doing the same.
How much land did Argentina take from Chile?
The whole open talks is a pointless exercise in being weak.
If Argentina wants the Falklands they should be the ones to try and convince the islanders.
Don't get all these arguments about the top 10 or something worth more than 50% of the population.
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Wasn't that exactly what they thought would happen back in the 80's? Which by doing so showed extremely little political sense in British mentality especially as we had Thatcher in charge. I dislike the woman but she was entirely right to defend people trying to forcibly ejected from their homes.
We could spend forever and age trying to fix the problems our forbears caused around the world but the reality is we caused way too much damage and at what point do you say enough is enough we can't be held responsible for something Jim Bloggs did in 1126? So the reality is we live with those decisions there are native people on the Falklands now who lived there for generations it is their home. I'd be happy to talk about sharing the resources of the Islands just because it helps to have a dialogue but giving up sovereignty when the people living their want to remain British? Why should we for any reason?
No Argentina invaded because Britain had just decommissioned HMS Ark royal, its military regime was deeply unpopular and needed a quick distraction and it didn't believe Britain had the political will to fight for the islands. If Britain had been more vocal and forceful back then the junta would not have bothered.
The Falklands to Argentina are like Fox hunting used to be in the UK. Every time the political elite screw something up they wheel out the Falklands and everyone gets all emotive and forgets the real issues.
No one has yet put forward a reason why Argentina has any claim, they are in no position at all to threaten the British presence in the islands, they have no standing on the world stage. So there is no resolution for us to bother with. If they want to have any part in the future of the Falklands they need to start giving us a reason why.
Corbyn has an Argentinean wife!!!
It don't really matter he's never going to be PM, he's about as significant as Argentina's navy which currently sits rusting in its ports.
Mexican but I suppose it's capital only 4500 miles out from Buenos Aires.
His second wife was Chilean which is a lot closer but still not Argentina.
Actuall tallshort there have numerous occasions of other nations trying to make us talk with Argentina and it doesn't take 5 seconds to see what their claims are. I don't agree with their claims but it's unfair to suggest they go "nope they are ours".
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Sorry but they need offer the olive branch, the irony is if they hadn't invaded there is probably a good chance they would be in possession of at least some of the islands now.
I am quoting what was said on BBC at lunch time today......I do not follow the communist bar steward as closely as you....obviously!!
Not the point I'm making.
I'm just saying that it isn't possible to simultaneously hold the views that (1) the Falklands should be British, and (2) Crimea should be Ukrainian, if you view sovereignty as being entirely based on self-determination. Which leads into my point that self-determination isn't, in and of itself, the only issue when it comes to the Falklands, although it is arguably the most important part of it.
I'm not here to make the case for Argentina.
The trump petition was pointless.
Why did people actually sign it? Waste of time.
Why did people actually sign it? Waste of time.
psychic duck
International
Virtue signalling.
Im not saying that but if you have a population in place for a number of years they should not be discounted just because Corbyn wants to play pals with Argentina. If Argentina also had a colony and some real claim to ownership other than " its near to us" and they had been a willing ally and partner in the recent years then I would be happy to hear their side but as they have just been a whining bunch of children who use the Falklands to distract the population from real problems I think we should just ignore them until they bring something else to the table like some humility for having started a war that was completly unneccesary and moaning about the sinking of one ship when they sank several of ours.
Watching the crazy world of Donald trump (think that was what it was called) last night.
Gave me more of a appreciation of UK attitude to politics.
Gave me more of a appreciation of UK attitude to politics.
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Typical british double standard. In the falklands all is about the self determination but in Crimea and Diego Garcia Island **** the people and the self determination ...
How's that British double standards?
You couldn't even get the continent right, much less the country.
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Joe McCarthy is alive and well and working in a chip shop in Douglas.
What an extremely punctual comment!
Hunt has announced he's imposing the contract on junior doctors.
Not entirely sure how this is suppose to help the situation and I'm not entirely sure what's he's attempting to gain by making them work Saturday's at the basic rate of pay.
You still won't be able to see your GP at a weekend as they aren't junior doctors.
Emergency surgeries will still go on at weekends.
Junior doctors already work Saturday's at a ridiculous pay rate (which has been agreed by both sides to reduce) so they aren't really affected by having to Saturday's but it allows trusts to play silly buggers more with their scheduling if Saturday is a regular day.
Not entirely sure how this is suppose to help the situation and I'm not entirely sure what's he's attempting to gain by making them work Saturday's at the basic rate of pay.
You still won't be able to see your GP at a weekend as they aren't junior doctors.
Emergency surgeries will still go on at weekends.
Junior doctors already work Saturday's at a ridiculous pay rate (which has been agreed by both sides to reduce) so they aren't really affected by having to Saturday's but it allows trusts to play silly buggers more with their scheduling if Saturday is a regular day.
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