A Political Thread

[Which Tyler]

Judge rules the Government acted lawfully in using prorogation.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-49568760

Didn't think this would work. Simply judge is ruling that they acted within the law and this was always a moral and ethical issue more than a legal one.

That was always going to be the case.
As far as I understand it, even the London one hinges on proving intent, which will be impossible in this case.

 

[Which Tyler]

More utter tripe. I sense a snowflake if you think this is the most right wing cabinet in recent history.

I notice that you haven't managed to name a cabinet further to the right yet.

https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/1169005738020278272
Ken Clarke "most right-wing cabinet any Conservative party's ever produced"

I suppose Clarke has been living right alongside me in some form of socialist hippy commune, whilst you've been living amongst the real people?

Anyone who thinks this government is 'far right' must be so ridiculously far left that they would think 'momentum' are moderate.

Ah no - Ken Clarke, famously sets himself far to the left of momentum

 

[ncurd]

"What this country needs is sensibile, moderate, progressive government," says Mr Johnson.

I agree wholeheartedly Mr. Johnson can you please resign so we can have one.

 

[Which Tyler]

I guess that's a "no" to Tanmanjeet Singh Dhesi's question.
That's going to be all over the place, and terrible, terrible optics for BJ

ETA: well played Swinson for calling him on it as well
For those who haven't seen it: https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1169218435554918400?

Just... don't read the comments

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Rory Stewart sacked via text while picking up the GQ award for Politician of the year,
Tories are the gift that keep on giving.

 

[Which Tyler]

Rory Stewart sacked via text while picking up the GQ award for Politician of the year,
Tories are the bully that keep on taking.

FTFY

 

[Groundhog]

 

[Which Tyler]

 

[Reiser99]

latest vote 329 to 300, majority up by 2.

 

[ncurd]

latest vote 329 to 300, majority up by 2.

Boris has now lost his first two votes as Pm, time for number 3 then he'll lose 4 meaning no GE

Anyone know what his 5th vote will be on?

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Impressed with Sir Nicholas Soames' interview on BBC News just now. Said it all for me from Winston Churchill's Grandson, who is now an independent after having the Conservative whip withdrawn from him.

 

[ncurd]

Soames and Clarke no longer being conservatives is the equivalent of Benn or Skinner no longer being Labour

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Soames saying this is no longer a one nation Conservative party, but hikacked by a sect was right on the button. Very sad that the whip for him and Clarke will be withdrawn, but as Soames says it will have consequences.

Personally, I can no longer vote conservative. No longer care if I throw my vote away because in my borough because it is Tory through and through (it even won back in 1997).

 

[Gavin]

MPs pass Brexit delay bill 327 to 299 majority of 28

Boris calls for election on 15th October

Corbyn confirms he'll have a general election once the Brexit delay bill is passed into Royal Assent

 

[Bada-Bing!]

It's still got to get through the Lords, so hopefully no hiccups. Then Royal ascent before becoming law. Can that be done before Parliament is prorogued?

 

[ncurd]

It's still got to get through the Lords, so hopefully no hiccups. Then Royal ascent before becoming law. Can that be done before Parliament is prorogued?

Lords are debating timetable now, there are tons of amendments to kill. I think there is time if Lords has a majority to get the bill through which is almost a certainty.

They have Boris over a barrell a GE before October 31st is his only hope and come back with a majority to remove this legislation in time. He's ****** until a GE and his body language shows it. Real question is whether his election strategy will work after another delay. I think he'll be just as screwed.

 

[Gavin]

Apparently the Lord's have 92 amendments to debate.

But if it all goes to plan it'll go through on Friday and become Law

The body language of Boris is very telling. Looks like a spoilt child who has been told by his butler that there isn't any more ice cream

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

A body language expert would be having a field day with Johnson tonight.

The braying behaviour of too many MPs is appalling.

 

[Which Tyler]

Ivw been out for a few hours (walking rugby).

WTF has happened with the Kinnock amendment, and what are the repercussions?

 

[ncurd]

Ivw been out for a few hours (walking rugby).

WTF has happened with the Kinnock amendment, and what are the repercussions?

Apparently parliament has to vote on May's deal again...nothing too exciting really can be removed by Lords.

It happened because the government didn't put up any tellers to approve it. So they are trying schenagans but as has been shown whilst Johnson, Reese-Mogg and Cummings and other think they are tactical geniuses the reality is Benn, Letwin etc. are a tad bit more clever.