A Political Thread pt. 2

[General Melchett]

yes but the left bloc won't vote for a democratic party working with Musk after everything he's done the last year or so, and they know that's millions of votes they can't go without. not to mention the easy attack lines the GOP will have over it

Yeah I'm not sure. If he turned on MAGA and the far right I think many fickle voters would swallow it. They love a storyline. It'd be like bad guy wrestler turns good guy. Relocate some of his operations to certain blue states, relaunch the $1m lotto and people would soon forgive.

Not saying it will happen but wouldn't be a big surprise.

 

[McTallshort]

Musk will go full bat **** conspiracy theorist and spend the rest of his life shouting on his ever diminished social media platform

 

[ncurd]

Seismic change in the NHS planned

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Trump has issued an executive order against a law firm that represented Clinton and Soros, and have openly stated the reason is nothing more than political revenge...

If course it's completely illegal and of course Republicans do nothing.

 

[Flankers' paradise]

I wonder if we will see a brain drain from the U.S. Yes taxes are higher here and the EU but that may be preferable to potential false imprisonment or being forced out of a job

 

[General Melchett]

I watched Tango man hosting Martin last night. He's just a bitter old man who is shaping America's foreign policy based on his own personal grudges. He was slamming the EU because they slowed down the planning permission on his Irish Golf Club refurb years ago.

Just rambling on using the same scripted lines slagging off Biden and how the wars in Ukraine and Gaza would never have happened had he been President blah blah blah which he can't even prove. I wonder how many times he's said the word 'deal' since he moved back into the Whitehouse.

 

[Weldit]

Seismic change in the NHS planned

Scared the hell out of me when the bbc/sky said "NHS England to be scrapped" at first.

 

[pagliaccio_euforico]

Didn't Trump publicly endorse Democrats at one point? he was a registered democrat between 2001 and 2009.

These people don't have a political compass except neo-liberalism at all costs on the financial side.

Except trump has been aggressively anti neo-liberal since he's come into office this time. He hates free trade since he considers competitive advantage unfair to the United States. He'll probably sign an executive order demanding people buy Teslas at some point. He's a mercantilist.

 

[Saintjay]

Seismic change in the NHS planned

Probably a good thing, but always feel sorry for the thousands who will be made redundant.

15,300 staff at NHS England, and 3,300 in the Department of Health and Social Care.

Streeting says his teams are looking to reduce the overall headcount "by 50%". He adds this will mean "hundreds of millions of pounds worth of savings".

 

[pagliaccio_euforico]

Probably a good thing, but always feel sorry for the thousands who will be made redundant.

15,300 staff at NHS England, and 3,300 in the Department of Health and Social Care.

Streeting says his teams are looking to reduce the overall headcount "by 50%". He adds this will mean "hundreds of millions of pounds worth of savings".

DOGE england

 

[TRF_Olyy]

I wonder if we will see a brain drain from the U.S. Yes taxes are higher here and the EU but that may be preferable to potential false imprisonment or being forced out of a job

I don't think so, wages are so astronomically higher in the US that it'd be a huge lifestyle change to move here, and realistically they're probably insulated from most of Trumps **** - it's the people without a choice that will get properly ****** over

 

[McTallshort]

My mate who's a nurse reckons they are going to privatise it. Not sure myself couldn't see a labour government do that.

 

[ChicagoKid]

I wonder if we will see a brain drain from the U.S. Yes taxes are higher here and the EU but that may be preferable to potential false imprisonment or being forced out of a job

It's very unlikely. People move for two reasons: persecution and economics. In his previous term, there was no widespread persecution against American citizens, and the economy was roaring. The European economies -- along with the UK -- are struggling and most Americans would take a 50-70% pay cut to move.

Full disclosure: I joined the majority of Americans in voting for Trump. If you don't live here, it's impossible to articulate how frustrated people are with the multi-decade wars, rising costs, and drug problem.

Here's a great example: In the late 60s'/early 70s, this country about ripped itself apart because of the Vietnam war which totaled roughly 70,000 deaths. These days we are losing 100,000+ to drug overdoses. It's a major issue that is rarely discussed in international media.

 

[Weldit]

My mate who's a nurse reckons they are going to privatise it. Not sure myself couldn't see a labour government do that.

Any government that does that, better leave the country quick. Nothing about our system is designed for that and it would result in a lot of deaths. It also doesn't solve the problems, just creates new ones.

 

[ChicagoKid]

And please stop linking to Newsweek. It's pure online ragebait. They make Wales Online look like Der Spiegel.

 

[McTallshort]

It's very unlikely. People move for two reasons: persecution and economics. In his previous term, there was no widespread persecution against American citizens, and the economy was roaring. The European economies -- along with the UK -- are struggling and most Americans would take a 50-70% pay cut to move.

Full disclosure: I joined the majority of Americans in voting for Trump. If you don't live here, it's impossible to articulate how frustrated people are with the multi-decade wars, rising costs, and drug problem.

Here's a great example: In the late 60s'/early 70s, this country about ripped itself apart because of the Vietnam war which totaled roughly 70,000 deaths. These days we are losing 100,000+ to drug overdoses. It's a major issue that is rarely discussed in international media.

And Trump is offering solutions to these problems? Genuine question

 

[ChicagoKid]

And Trump is offering solutions to these problems? Genuine question

Before COVID, the economy was strong. Unemployment was down, real wages were up, inflation was at 2 percent.

You can argue all day long about his record, but the economy was doing very well.

The two biggest issues for 2024 were the economy and immigration. Trump dominated Kamala on both. Do you think that's because a majority of Americans misremember his economic record?

 

[General Melchett]

Privatisation of the NHS just seems a bit big bang to me. Reform makes more sense.

In Sweden, people pay £15 to visit a GP or consultant if they've been referred. As soon as they've paid £150 in a calendar year any treatment received on top of that is free. Not saying it's perfect but I think adopting a similar model would save a fortune and ease the burden on the system. I'd also scrap free prescriptions across the UK due to the abuse and wastage. Special exemptions for certain groups like children, pensioners, disabled people etc.

 

[ncurd]

Full disclosure: I joined the majority of Americans in voting for Trump.

You voted for a man who bragged about committing sexual assault. Who is a convicted felon and tried to overthrow a democratic election.

Your now on my ignore list, your opinion isn't worth anything if you can ignore all that and still vote for a person of that calibre regardless of the polices of ANY other indivdual.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

You can argue all day long about his record, but the economy was doing very well.

Wasn't that because he inherited a strong economy from Obama, and it started slipping through 2019 before he had the excuse of COVID, though?