A Political Thread pt. 2

[ncurd]

This has been the fight they've been looking for it never had anything to do with stopping the boats. As anyone with a braincells could tell.

 

[General Melchett]

It makes my blood boil after the damage they've done that they're willing to incite more hate and division in a desperate attempt to cling on to power. National interest my arse. They are beyond despicable.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Tory minister hid in cupboard to avoid Hillsborough families, says ex-PM

Theresa May says the unnamed minister avoided the families by hiding in a cupboard in 2010.

www.bbc.co.uk

Talking of cowardice resulting from an actual proven conspiracy. I don't like May but I can believe her in this instance.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Rishi obviously read my post above

American bully XLs to be banned as dog attack victim named

It comes after a man died following a suspected American XL bully attack in Walsall on Thursday.

www.google.com

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-66818862

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

Rishi obviously read my post above

American bully XLs to be banned as dog attack victim named

It comes after a man died following a suspected American XL bully attack in Walsall on Thursday.

www.google.com

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-66818862

THis is genuinely proof that random twitter campaigns, almost entirely driven by one bloke, initially can have a policy impact. It's quite astonishing really

 

[TRF_Olyy]

THis is genuinely proof that random twitter campaigns, almost entirely driven by one bloke, initially can have a policy impact. It's quite astonishing really

I've not seen a twitter campaign, but if it was one guy that spearheaded this then fair play - I know there's a petition going around that's got 20k signatures on, presuming he started that?

8 hospitalisations and one death this week alone from them, not to mention things like this happening earlier in the month

Two XL bully dogs shot dead after killing 22 pregnant sheep - as owner fined

David Hughes, 26, from Rhosllanerchrugog, North Wales, was ordered to pay £900 in fines after admitting an offence of being in charge of a dog dangerously out of control.

www.google.com

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

I've not seen a twitter campaign, but if it was one guy that spearheaded this then fair play - I know there's a petition going around that's got 20k signatures on, presuming he started that?

8 hospitalisations and one death this week alone from them, not to mention things like this happening earlier in the month

Two XL bully dogs shot dead after killing 22 pregnant sheep - as owner fined

David Hughes, 26, from Rhosllanerchrugog, North Wales, was ordered to pay £900 in fines after admitting an offence of being in charge of a dog dangerously out of control.

www.google.com

Yeah I believe so, this is the bloke https://x.com/pursuitofprog?t=dtOVkBgvfxeDRucW_yMhOw&s=09

Genuinely remarkable amount of work

 

[Welsh Exile]

Larger scale? How does the POTUS getting killed at the height of the Cold War and Americans thinking it could be the Soviet Union at the time and starting WW3 and killing millions from launching nuclear weapons be any smaller. They are all BS theories based on kernals of truth. Hence why they appeal to certain people and are taken in.

Yeah scale probably wasn't the right word but i meant what @Quel Carreleur more
succinctly said. The JFK conspiracy is more plausible due to the amount of people needed to be in on it to cover it up being a million times smaller.

I personally know next to nothing about the JFK stuff so will naturally be sceptical about any conspiracy. The problem is like with all these things is if you believe one you're more likely to believe a load of others regardless of how realistic they are as they provide people with easy to understand answers to things we don't 100% know.

 

[ncurd]

Yeah scale probably wasn't the right word but i meant what @Quel Carreleur more
succinctly said. The JFK conspiracy is more plausible due to the amount of people needed to be in on it to cover it up being a million times smaller.

I personally know next to nothing about the JFK stuff so will naturally be sceptical about any conspiracy. The problem is like with all these things is if you believe one you're more likely to believe a load of others regardless of how realistic they are as they provide people with easy to understand answers to things we don't 100% know.

This is an excellent video on that showing how Flat Earthers eventually went down the more dangerous QAnon type conspiracies.

If we look at JFK you just have to look at actual state sanctioned assassination's even the subtle non Russian kind, people just know and say.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

I personally know next to nothing about the JFK stuff so will naturally be sceptical about any conspiracy. The problem is like with all these things is if you believe one you're more likely to believe a load of others regardless of how realistic they are as they provide people with easy to understand answers to things we don't 100% know.

If you're looking for a good book on the subject Case closed by Gerarld Posner is a very good one. Although not as comprehensive as Vincent Bugliosi's who examines each and every conspiracy theory on the assassination and apparently even criticises Posner's book. Both are totally outnumbered by the conspiracy theory books on the matter.

Just one of those events in history- way before my time, but a fascinating insight into how and why America are so susceptible to conspiracy theories.

 

[Lé Ddanno]

THis is genuinely proof that random twitter campaigns, almost entirely driven by one bloke, initially can have a policy impact. It's quite astonishing really

It does require a government entirely out of steam, ideas and credibility with anyone but their cultists

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

It does require a government entirely out of steam, ideas and credibility with anyone but their cultists

Effective campaigning requires that? Why?

 

[Lé Ddanno]

Effective campaigning requires that? Why?

Because this lot wouldn't be bothered otherwise

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

Because this lot wouldn't be bothered otherwise

Substantiate?

 

[Bada-Bing!]

How the fentanyl crisis' fourth wave has hit every corner of the US

The epidemic's staggering scale and infiltration of communities is laid bare in a new study.

www.bbc.co.uk

very sad.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Boris Johnson: Officials discussed raising concerns about former PM to Queen

Senior government officials spoke to Buckingham Palace during the pandemic about the then PM's conduct, the BBC is told.

www.bbc.co.uk

Nothing new really but just more to reinforce how insanely dysfunctional the last few Tory administrations have been. Johnson was Britain's Trump, with the same disregard for the law and integrity as Trump. The Tories are running on nothing more than red meat they can throw to the ultra-nationalist wing now so their entire strategy between now and whenever the election is is going to be about making people angry and bigging up all the usual targets of nationalists (immigrants, asylum seekers, other countries etc). All this done in the hope that they can get people wound up enough that they will vote for a party they think will harm these "enemies" whilst forgetting what a **** show they have delivered for just over a decade.

Combine this with Truss sniping from the sidelines and still convinced her lunacy was the right way forward and there has never been a better demonstration of why the Tories need to go, they are corrupted to the very core and beyond redemption so long as they stay in power.

 

[SG59_]

The sad thing is, people have short memories and will probably vote them back in once they try blaming Labour for everything.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

The sad thing is, people have short memories and will probably vote them back in once they try blaming Labour for everything.

The fact Sunak, without a hint of irony, has tried to blame Labour for not warning him about things in his own plans that went wrong just shows the ridiculousness of it. Labour have not been in power for over a decade, anything that is going wrong now sits solely with the Tories. The Tories on the one hand accuse Labour of just sniping from the sidelines rather than letting the Tories "get on with the job" but then turn around and say it's their fault they ****** up because Labour weren't sniping enough to let them know what a terrible idea it was.

 

[SG59_]

I love that line. Okay, let's look at them "getting on with the job"

Energy bills = still high
House shortage = still high
Education = really expensive at uni and the schools are collapsing
health = on it's arse due to funding cuts and being dragged to work by hard working staff
Transport = a poorly ran, expensive joke
Inflation = high
policing = underfunded and a lot of awful decisions made
brexit = still not working
Retail = in an age where people can click a button to order stuff, the brick and mortar shops are still being asked to pay silly rates.
Corruption = I dread to think how much of this is going on. We hear stories regularly and nothing is being done.

What part of this is "getting on with the job?"

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Ex-Colorado police officer who put handcuffed woman in car hit by train avoids jail

Jordan Steinke will serve 30 months on probation following the 2022 incident.

www.bbc.co.uk

Police in the USA follow a completely different set of laws to everyone else. Recklessly parks their car on ******* train tracks, handcuffs someone and puts them in said vehicle that is then hit by a train. Oh a bit of community service for you. Anyone else does anything even approaching that level of negligence and it is prison time.

The USA really has to get their act together with properly prosecuting police and it's a lesson for us to learn in this country too. Those who enforce the law should be held to a higher standard, not a lower one.