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A Political Thread pt. 2

I see Priti Patel turned up in a cosplay for her favourite Harry Potter character
 

I think a vote of confidence will happen and I think Johnson will win it and everything will go on like nothing has happened. TBH at this stage I want Johnson to win, I feel the Tories showing that, when push comes to shove, they will still support him will hopefully harm them in the next election.
 
Seems like the boos on Thursday was the tipping point, this has been heavily speculated since Friday on twitter after the clips made the rounds.

 
Confirmed the vote will be between 6 and 8pm tonight. Just heard on Sky News

So either he goes woooooo or he stays doing lasting damage to the Tory party.
 
Many letters were post dated after the jubilee which seams odd.
 
Who in the Tory party could honestly take leadership mantle without just being a Johnson Lite.

The Tory party has wrecked itself of Centre ground leaders due to this appealing to the right right
 
Who in the Tory party could honestly take leadership mantle without just being a Johnson Lite.

The Tory party has wrecked itself of Centre ground leaders due to this appealing to the right right
Hunt, Tugenhat although did give Brexit pledge of alligence this weekend (probably for leadship bid).

That's really it as far as I'm aware.
 
Who in the Tory party could honestly take leadership mantle without just being a Johnson Lite.

The Tory party has wrecked itself of Centre ground leaders due to this appealing to the right right
Pretty much anyone who could, was purged from the party in 2019.
What the tory party needs, is someone like Grieve or Stewart - but A] I'm not sure they'd come back if asked; and B] there's no guarantee they'd win in Tiverton, which seems the only viable way to bring in a new Try MP, ("viable" is being stretched there).


Anyone with name recognition, will also most likely be less competent than BJ - as that was part of the job description for being in cabinet (there's the odd exception like Jeremy Cunt, who's still there, and still has name recognition from previous regimes)
 
Really interesting listening to a Tory pollster on Sky News. Basically Johnson has gone Corbyn. Announce a popular policy it's goes well, stick Johnsons name on it the policy is hated. He has an extremely loyal core group of voters but just about all swing voters hate his guts.
 
Who in the Tory party could honestly take leadership mantle without just being a Johnson Lite.

The Tory party has wrecked itself of Centre ground leaders due to this appealing to the right right

It would make a nice change if Tory MPs actually picked someone who they thought was the best candidate to be PM and could restore integrity to the office rather than someone whose strengths are to lie religiously, break the law and spout right wing nationalistic anti-foreigner rhetoric during election campaigns.
 
Really interesting listening to a Tory pollster on Sky News. Basically Johnson has gone Corbyn. Announce a popular policy it's goes well, stick Johnsons name on it the policy is hated. He has an extremely loyal core group of voters but just about all swing voters hate his guts.

I watched that. It was also suggested that if Boris wins tonight but the margin is tighter than Theresa May's VoC win in 2018 then he's toast regardless of the one year immunity rule.
 
I watched that. It was also suggested that if Boris wins tonight but the margin is tighter than Theresa May's VoC win in 2018 then he's toast regardless of the one year immunity rule.
May only lost a third of MPs and was essentially mortally wounded and gone in 6 months but that wasn mainly by mot being able to get Brexit through parliment. Johnson won't leave on his volition though so we'll end up with him limping to electoral disaster.
 
May only lost a third of MPs and was essentially mortally wounded and gone in 6 months but that wasn mainly by mot being able to get Brexit through parliment. Johnson won't leave on his volition though so we'll end up with him limping to electoral disaster.

If he continues to lose support after the vote and gets a drubbing in the Wakefield by election then I still think he's toast. When it reaches a point where he's not able to get anything through Parliament cabinet ministers will turn on him.
 
I think it's too early. I don't think he'll lose. They should have waited until the by-elections as Conservatives are likely to lose them.
 
I think it's too early. I don't think he'll lose. They should have waited until the by-elections as Conservatives are likely to lose them.
Honestly don't think it will make much difference a 2/3 majority is a (rightly) high threshold to make and don't really see a sitting PM ever loosing it. Its the only way of removing him as he won't resign so there is still hope but I don't think it ever had much chance of succeeding as the threshold has taken so long.

From the non-Tory perspective its only ever about the lasting damage it will cause.
 
Boris is from the breed of modern international leaders with no shame who get away with showing no accountability for their words and deeds due to a supine media and its ADHD 24hr news cycle.

By this time next week today and partygate will have been largely forgotten by the media. Then the billionaire owned media will go to work spoon feeding the public all sorts of crap that is far more important than the Good Friday Agreement and adhering to international and domestic law (mainly involving foreigners, skin tone, sexual preference and gender alignment). I'll be shocked if Boris isnt PM into the late 2020s. Only a Gove like assassination going on behind the scenes (which we aren't aware of) can stop him.
 
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