A Political Thread pt. 2

[Welsh Exile]

So coool, I tried it with another leader,but it didn't work for me

My brother did it so sadly I can't help you.

 

[Which Tyler]

This is acompelling read actually, although I've only managed half by skimming.

It seems a huge amount of former officials, including Trumps own from term 1 have had access revoked.

I'd like to find the full list, I'll have a look for it later.

Didn't Biden do this to Trump in 2021? I agree Biden should have, I agree Trump needs to, I would also agree the new incoming in a few years should remove Trump, does noone agree?

Aren't ex-presdients, (and advisors, secretaries of state etc) supposed to be seen as elder statesmen, available as sounding boards, and advisors, the only people who really know what it's like in the hot seat, and for advisors, experts in their previous experts?
Certainly Carter, Bush, Clinton, Bush & Obama (just from presidents) filled those roles (not sure Reagan had the capacity when he left office). I'm pretty sure it goes back significantly further than that though. But it's a "norm", an expectation that presidents do their honest best for the country, even if they disagree on what is best.

In which case, they need clearance.

Trump stole confidential documents to feed his ego (and bank account) and no way could have been trusted to keep a clearance level.
He's removing other peoples' clearances because he's a petty child, who doesn't respect anyone who isn't a tyrant.

Removing clearance may become the new norm - I kinda hope not, for the reasons above. But if the massive polarisation of the last decade continues, it probably will.

 

[AlRums]

Wrong answer to post

 

[AlRums]

Parrot Ai - Celebrity Voice Generator

You have received a message

www.tryparrotai.com

The first female voice listed is a pornstar

 

[Which Tyler]

@TRF_Olyy
Thread is 1000 pages long - do we want to take pity on the server and start afresh?
Maybe separate out N.American politics from European? Or European from RotW?

 

[AlRums]

Trump cancels executive order against law firm after $40m promise - BBC News

Paul, Weiss promised $40 million of free legal work to the White House and to change its diversity policies.

www.bbc.co.uk

Straight forward, out and out, extortion

And

Trump directs Bondi to probe attorneys who lob ‘frivolous, unreasonable’ litigation against his administration

Vexed by the legal onslaught against his administration, President Trump directed US Attorney General Pam Bondi to pursue penalties against law firms and lawyers that lodge “frivolous” …

nypost.com

 

[Yulia]

The first female voice listed is a pornstar

I have certain Mia Khalifa, don't know who is it,but quick googling shows she's a singer, maybe it shows you your googled preferences voices or something like that?

 

[ncurd]

I have certain Mia Khalifa, don't know who is it,but quick googling shows she's a singer, maybe it shows you your googled preferences voices or something like that?

Nope still an ex-pornstar

 

[BiggusLaddus]

I have certain Mia Khalifa, don't know who is it,but quick googling shows she's a singer, maybe it shows you your googled preferences voices or something like that?

Google her again with safe search turned off.

 

[AlRums]

I have certain Mia Khalifa, don't know who is it,but quick googling shows she's a singer, maybe it shows you your googled preferences voices or something like that?

Actually it is a song called "Mia Khalifa" by someone called ilivefriday

This is her

Mia Khalifa - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Yulia]

Yes,sorry,my mistake: I saw a song in honor of this.."star" and mistakenly took her for a singer. Jesus, person of almost my age and already such a "popularity" weird her voice is among politicians and real stars though

 

[AlRums]

Yes,sorry,my mistake: I saw a song in honor of this.."star" and mistakenly took her for a singer. Jesus, person of almost my age and already such a "popularity" weird her voice is among politicians and real stars though

Amazing what you can do when you take your clothes off and "strut your stuff"

 

[Welsh Exile]

Amazing what you can do when you take your clothes off and "strut your stuff"

I tried it once and got 6 months inside for my troubles.

 

[dirty harry]

Aren't ex-presdients, (and advisors, secretaries of state etc) supposed to be seen as elder statesmen, available as sounding boards, and advisors, the only people who really know what it's like in the hot seat, and for advisors, experts in their previous experts?
Certainly Carter, Bush, Clinton, Bush & Obama (just from presidents) filled those roles (not sure Reagan had the capacity when he left office). I'm pretty sure it goes back significantly further than that though. But it's a "norm", an expectation that presidents do their honest best for the country, even if they disagree on what is best.

In which case, they need clearance.

Trump stole confidential documents to feed his ego (and bank account) and no way could have been trusted to keep a clearance level.
He's removing other peoples' clearances because he's a petty child, who doesn't respect anyone who isn't a tyrant.

Removing clearance may become the new norm - I kinda hope not, for the reasons above. But if the massive polarisation of the last decade continues, it probably will.

So when Biden does it for the first time, it's justified, Trump took documents (Biden would never do that) but when Trump follows suit your outraged?

Let's be honest, does Biden have capacity? Is Hunter trustworthy?

There are probably arguments for and against the names on the list, and I have seen the full list, but Democrats seem to have a great skill for being short sighted. They set a precedent and then surprise Pikachu face when the next government do the same thing lol

I honestly don't care about ex presidents ability to access classified information, I just don't understand the pearl clutching only when Trump does something.

Let's say I agree it's him being petty, and vindictive, I would also keep the same energy when Biden did it though.

 

[dirty harry]

Trump cancels executive order against law firm after $40m promise - BBC News

Paul, Weiss promised $40 million of free legal work to the White House and to change its diversity policies.

www.bbc.co.uk

Straight forward, out and out, extortion

And

Trump directs Bondi to probe attorneys who lob ‘frivolous, unreasonable’ litigation against his administration

Vexed by the legal onslaught against his administration, President Trump directed US Attorney General Pam Bondi to pursue penalties against law firms and lawyers that lodge “frivolous” …

nypost.com

Kind of. The rescinding of DEI programs, and pro Bono work to Veterans and Anti Semtism probably don't count as financially beneficial to Trump.

I'd say it's more point scoring against law firms who contributed to things like the Steele Dossier, and went after him originally.

 

[AlRums]

I tried it once and got 6 months inside for my troubles.

But you were sheep worrying

 

[AlRums]

So when Biden does it for the first time, it's justified, Trump took documents (Biden would never do that) but when Trump follows suit your outraged?

Let's be honest, does Biden have capacity? Is Hunter trustworthy?

There are probably arguments for and against the names on the list, and I have seen the full list, but Democrats seem to have a great skill for being short sighted. They set a precedent and then surprise Pikachu face when the next government do the same thing lol

I honestly don't care about ex presidents ability to access classified information, I just don't understand the pearl clutching only when Trump does something.

Let's say I agree it's him being petty, and vindictive, I would also keep the same energy when Biden did it though.

Let's not forget strumpet's also cancelling security clearances for anyone he doesn't like, including anyone who has investigated him, lawyers so they can't sue him or the government to try and prevent his megalomanic policies.

 

[AlRums]

Kind of. The rescinding of DEI programs, and pro Bono work to Veterans and Anti Semtism probably don't count as financially beneficial to Trump.

I'd say it's more point scoring against law firms who contributed to things like the Steele Dossier, and went after him originally.

No, trump has no control or say as what what a non government entity can do about dei.

He only has control of government policies.

Just like his vendetta against associated press because they still called the Gulf of Mexico, Mexico and not America.

He seems to be under the impression his rule is for everything and everyone.

In this instant, he withdrew security clearance from some lawyers until they paid up. That's extortion.

 

[AlRums]

 

[Which Tyler]

So when Biden does it for the first time, it's justified, Trump took documents (Biden would never do that) but when Trump follows suit your outraged?

Am I?
Thanks for telling me, I really wouldn't have got that from my feelings, or the words I wrote, but I'm sure you know best.

Let's be honest, does Biden have capacity? Is Hunter trustworthy?

Capacity somewhere between Reagan and the others.
Hunter? Not for me

I honestly don't care about ex presidents ability to access classified information, I just don't understand the pearl clutching only when Trump does something.

If you want pearl clutching, you're going need a different post to reply to.

Let's say I agree it's him being petty, and vindictive, I would also keep the same energy when Biden did it though.

Then you'd be showing either remarkable insight, or remarkable ignorance, but I guess you've got to support your team (see, other people can do projection too - though I will note that you're defended Trump far more the last few days than I've defended Biden in the last few decades)