2nd Test: South Africa v Lions

[Bullitt]

Funniest. thread. ever. :lol:

 

[shazbooger]

Ok hold on, so all we need to do is offer "Just a few more acknowledgements of how well your opposition played, rather than the 90% bleating, 10% graciousness."

You mean like;

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (shtove @ Jun 27 2009, 04:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Well done Saffers - all the balls! I've really liked Habana's attitude in both tests.[/b]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cyRil of Ospreylia @ Jun 27 2009, 04:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Yeah well done South Africa.[/b]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sir. Speedy @ Jun 27 2009, 04:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

There's a point. Du Preez is amazing. Best player for SA today, though Kearney gets MotM for me.[/b]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (stevemagoo @ Jun 27 2009, 04:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Unreal match - Fair play to SA though - i was sure they were going to run out of gas - good substitutions by Divvy.[/b]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Thingimubob @ Jun 27 2009, 04:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Yupp, fair play to South Africa, really did well to come considering their first half performance. Kind of the opposite to last week, just with SA winning with their comeback.[/b]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Olyy @ Jun 27 2009, 04:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Cracking game to watch, everyone in the pub was screaming for the last 15 or so minutes, incredible kick from Steyn. Great comeback by SA as well, wasn't expecting it to be that close after the first 20minutes or so. Suppose it went similarly to last week though.[/b]

You dont really expect us to expand to much on how amazing the Boks were do you? Each one of those points would have been added to with an extension of where it went wrong for the Lions. I think you guys down south seem to call them excuses or analysis. Depends on whether you won or lost.

Anyhoo, the first input from a Bok fan (which is what kicked it all off really):
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheBokke @ Jun 27 2009, 07:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Lol excuses already pouring in from the Lions. Never has a team visited our shores so arrogant or such poor losers. 2-0 is proof enough.

Burger aside the Lions were as dirty as anyone and once the Boks cottoned on to this the Boks calmed down and beat the Lions AGAIN. My only sad point in rugby terms is I have lost all respect for the Irish and Welsh who I always admired in rugby. Officially the biggest losers in the game.

The sour grapes from this BIL is sad to say the least.[/b]

Anyhoo I still stand by what I said, but I've already said it, why should I bother repeating myself. The conversation has moved on.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Logorrhea @ Jun 27 2009, 10:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

However there is some shite being spouted here. This Lions team didnt start the test as a scratch team as I thought they were pretty solid all round the park. The Injuries in game became a big factor but you cant detract from the fact the boks were coming on strong at the time. I'm actually quite happy with how the Lions have performed over the two tests. We could throw in a lot of excuses e.g. End-of season fatigue, altitude, in game and pre-tour injuries, poor refereeing, idiotic selection, brain farts in the last minute ... blah blah blah blah. I just dont think they really apply. The Boks had to hang in when it was going against them and they did, their pack were monsters in the first test, and their backs turned up today. Most importantly, their bench had a huge impact, while ours was thrown in so early we lost that chance.

Maybe circumstances conspired against them, but I think they did well today. Of course I believe they deserved to win but thems the breaks.[/b]

 

[shazbooger]

Oh, and Munsterfans is funnier then here. You should have seen the Leinster vs Munster threads (Lunster fans, Bandwagons and True Fans). f***ing class funny.

 

[Sir Speedy]

As sure as I am that the thread contains 18 pages of PURE HILARITY! it's still 18 pages.

Lol at, remember teh drop goal in Cardiff!!?!?!?!?

 

[Prestwick]

Hi guys, been away at work for ages!

How did the game go?

EDIT: I jest, I jest...managed to drag myself out of bed and catch the game but I've been away for a week because work are short staffed and they need all hands on deck to make sure Bokkes can pay for braai equipment with their Visa cards, etc so NO MOANING, okay?

Anyway, an epic, epic game. Half of the people in the pub were local Clapham-ites (i.e. trendy left wing, Guardian reading luvvies who just watch Chealsea/Liverpool and Wimbledon before complaining about Fox Hunting and Grammar Schools) and this was probably their first ever game of rugby they've seen and it was up there for any cup final in any sport for sheer seat of pants excitement.

Hats off to a great nail biting win for the Boks, tremendous last minute stuff although I for one was gutted having spent most of the match using the well used QKXV tactic of yelling "HE'S BEEN DOING IT ALL DAY REF!" Thirty seconds into the game when the "Schalk Burger infringement drinking game of danger" got underway. I chose coming in at the side, my mate chose eye gouging and had to down a pint..lucky sod

I did notice that it was turning into Wrestlemania at times, for example see one of JP Pietersen's tackles:

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And then there was Bakkies Botha on Adam Jones:

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And then there was Luke Fitsgerald on someone, I think John Smit:

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I could go on, it was getting silly at times but provided much comic relief in amongst all the nailbiting tension.

In all, a superb game. 10/10. Legendary. I think one thing we can all assume now is because of how close both games were the Lions are safe as a team...for now.

Roll on Argentina 2013!!!

 

[kaino1990]

great game to watch. Lions were absolutely superb, SA showed a bit of Bulls-like flair in striking back the lions straight away from the try. IMO, the game changed when Adam Jones got injured, the uncontested scrums KILLED the lions... alot of injuries stuffed the lions, the Springboks were allowed to catch their breath with no scrum (they were puffing, especially Smit) and therefore SA were more effective at the breakdown, the lions were absolutely aggressive, i loved how they gave it back to the boks, and sheridans punch in the nuts LOL best part of the game imo, didnt realise how good kearney was (dont watch NH rugby alot), he was outstanding. seemed like the boks were the enemy at their own homeground lol, thousands of Lions fans, i think they even outnumbered the SA fans O_O

 

[TheBokke]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kaino1990 @ Jun 30 2009, 08:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

great game to watch. Lions were absolutely superb, SA showed a bit of Bulls-like flair in striking back the lions straight away from the try. IMO, the game changed when Adam Jones got injured, the uncontested scrums KILLED the lions... alot of injuries stuffed the lions, the Springboks were allowed to catch their breath with no scrum (they were puffing, especially Smit) and therefore SA were more effective at the breakdown, the lions were absolutely aggressive, i loved how they gave it back to the boks, and sheridans punch in the nuts LOL best part of the game imo, didnt realise how good kearney was (dont watch NH rugby alot), he was outstanding. seemed like the boks were the enemy at their own homeground lol, thousands of Lions fans, i think they even outnumbered the SA fans O_O[/b]

Lions fans normally outnumbered the locals on tours always well supported.

 

[TheBokke]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Logorrhea @ Jun 30 2009, 01:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Ok hold on, so all we need to do is offer "Just a few more acknowledgements of how well your opposition played, rather than the 90% bleating, 10% graciousness."

You mean like;

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (shtove @ Jun 27 2009, 04:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Well done Saffers - all the balls! I've really liked Habana's attitude in both tests.[/b]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cyRil of Ospreylia @ Jun 27 2009, 04:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Yeah well done South Africa.[/b]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sir. Speedy @ Jun 27 2009, 04:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

There's a point. Du Preez is amazing. Best player for SA today, though Kearney gets MotM for me.[/b]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (stevemagoo @ Jun 27 2009, 04:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Unreal match - Fair play to SA though - i was sure they were going to run out of gas - good substitutions by Divvy.[/b]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Thingimubob @ Jun 27 2009, 04:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Yupp, fair play to South Africa, really did well to come considering their first half performance. Kind of the opposite to last week, just with SA winning with their comeback.[/b]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Olyy @ Jun 27 2009, 04:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Cracking game to watch, everyone in the pub was screaming for the last 15 or so minutes, incredible kick from Steyn. Great comeback by SA as well, wasn't expecting it to be that close after the first 20minutes or so. Suppose it went similarly to last week though.[/b]

You dont really expect us to expand to much on how amazing the Boks were do you? Each one of those points would have been added to with an extension of where it went wrong for the Lions. I think you guys down south seem to call them excuses or analysis. Depends on whether you won or lost.

Anyhoo, the first input from a Bok fan (which is what kicked it all off really):
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheBokke @ Jun 27 2009, 07:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Lol excuses already pouring in from the Lions. Never has a team visited our shores so arrogant or such poor losers. 2-0 is proof enough.

Burger aside the Lions were as dirty as anyone and once the Boks cottoned on to this the Boks calmed down and beat the Lions AGAIN. My only sad point in rugby terms is I have lost all respect for the Irish and Welsh who I always admired in rugby. Officially the biggest losers in the game.

The sour grapes from this BIL is sad to say the least.[/b]

Anyhoo I still stand by what I said, but I've already said it, why should I bother repeating myself. The conversation has moved on.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Logorrhea @ Jun 27 2009, 10:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

However there is some shite being spouted here. This Lions team didnt start the test as a scratch team as I thought they were pretty solid all round the park. The Injuries in game became a big factor but you cant detract from the fact the boks were coming on strong at the time. I'm actually quite happy with how the Lions have performed over the two tests. We could throw in a lot of excuses e.g. End-of season fatigue, altitude, in game and pre-tour injuries, poor refereeing, idiotic selection, brain farts in the last minute ... blah blah blah blah. I just dont think they really apply. The Boks had to hang in when it was going against them and they did, their pack were monsters in the first test, and their backs turned up today. Most importantly, their bench had a huge impact, while ours was thrown in so early we lost that chance.

Maybe circumstances conspired against them, but I think they did well today. Of course I believe they deserved to win but thems the breaks.[/b]

[/b][/quote]

I don't expect anyone to bow done to the Boks and my gripe is with the management and some of the players. How do you explain O'gara not even wanting to shake hands with the Emerging Boks?

I started with the 2-0 after I heard Phillips crying after the game. He thinks that the Lions were angels. Was not that fussed with the 3rd game as it was a bit of a dead rubber but now it looks as if it is going to be off the wall.

 

[TheBokke]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teh Mite @ Jun 29 2009, 10:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheBokke @ Jun 29 2009, 07:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sir. Speedy @ Jun 29 2009, 10:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Steve-o @ Jun 28 2009, 08:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sir. Speedy @ Jun 28 2009, 08:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I'm willing to admit South Africa are a brilliant side, but on the back of these two games, I can say with the utmost confidence that IF the full strength Lions side came against them again, without any injuries plaguing them throughout the game, the Lions would win.[/b]

Thanks for your williness to admit it, we Boks supporter really need to hear it.
[/b][/quote]
No problem, Stevie.

TheBokke: the tour has been built up, sure, but our chances have always been given a kick in the teeth by pundits and journalists alike. It's always been the Lions could win IF so and so does this, and IF so and so has a mare etc ad nauseam.

I don't think many people, if any, expected them to play so well in both tests. Well in the first test, after Vickery went off, I mean.
[/b][/quote]

Of course people thought they had a chance to win so did most of you on this forum, hell some are are still claiming IF they had another chance they would win. most NH pundits predicted victory Barnes, Wallace, Morris, Guscott, Stephen Jones and the list goes on. They are a very well managed team with the best players from 4 strong rugby nations. They had 8 weeks together before the first game so there can be no excuses.

The Emerging Boks(not one cap) only had 6 days together before they played the Lions team(full of international players) and drew. The Lions is a very strong team who have played very well the whole tour and that is why they were so tough to beat, you can't compare this tour and the NZ tour as everyone will tell you that was a disaster(thank Sir Clive for that one)

My only complaint is this BIL have acted very arrogantly and have seemed to think they are better than the Boks.Your captain has never even congratulated them once during his aftermatch interviews, all he could talk about was missed chances etc. The only two who have actually come out and said well done Boks is Croft and Shaw.

Past BIL teams have left our shores with the admiration & respect they deserve sadly not the 2009 BIL.
[/b][/quote]

People in glass houses shouldn't be throwing stones...
[/b][/quote]

P Divvy is a plank but the BIL 2009 are sore losers. The whole set up smacks of Gatland and Edwards and I think they have influenced Geech now. Last year we beat wales 3-0 and they still reckoned Wales were the better team.

 

[SaintsFan_Schweinsteiger_Webby]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheBokke @ Jun 29 2009, 10:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

How do you explain O'gara not even wanting to shake hands with the Emerging Boks?[/b]

He's a twat.

 

[TheBokke]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Prestwick @ Jun 30 2009, 04:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Hi guys, been away at work for ages!

How did the game go?

EDIT: I jest, I jest...managed to drag myself out of bed and catch the game but I've been away for a week because work are short staffed and they need all hands on deck to make sure Bokkes can pay for braai equipment with their Visa cards, etc so NO MOANING, okay?

Anyway, an epic, epic game. Half of the people in the pub were local Clapham-ites (i.e. trendy left wing, Guardian reading luvvies who just watch Chealsea/Liverpool and Wimbledon before complaining about Fox Hunting and Grammar Schools) and this was probably their first ever game of rugby they've seen and it was up there for any cup final in any sport for sheer seat of pants excitement.

Hats off to a great nail biting win for the Boks, tremendous last minute stuff although I for one was gutted having spent most of the match using the well used QKXV tactic of yelling "HE'S BEEN DOING IT ALL DAY REF!" Thirty seconds into the game when the "Schalk Burger infringement drinking game of danger" got underway. I chose coming in at the side, my mate chose eye gouging and had to down a pint..lucky sod

I did notice that it was turning into Wrestlemania at times, for example see one of JP Pietersen's tackles:

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/kE0C5e5qtUg&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/kE0C5e5qtUg&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

And then there was Bakkies Botha on Adam Jones:

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And then there was Luke Fitsgerald on someone, I think John Smit:

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/0BLIKm6UZKA&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/0BLIKm6UZKA&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

I could go on, it was getting silly at times but provided much comic relief in amongst all the nailbiting tension.

In all, a superb game. 10/10. Legendary. I think one thing we can all assume now is because of how close both games were the Lions are safe as a team...for now.

Roll on Argentina 2013!!! [/b]

:lol:

 

[Sir Speedy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheBokke @ Jun 29 2009, 10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Last year we beat wales 3-0 and they still reckoned Wales were the better team.[/b]

Results only tell half the tale. Anywho, I'm not gonna dispute those games. That's ancient history. Just saying I'd rather our coaches be arrogant shits than imitations of Gareth Jenkins.

 

[TheBokke]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sir. Speedy @ Jun 30 2009, 10:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheBokke @ Jun 29 2009, 10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Last year we beat wales 3-0 and they still reckoned Wales were the better team.[/b]

Results only tell half the tale. Anywho, I'm not gonna dispute those games. That's ancient history. Just saying I'd rather our coaches be arrogant shits than imitations of Gareth Jenkins.
[/b][/quote]

Results prove one thing that there were winners and losers end of!!! Why defend the arrogance of your coaches it would be like me defending P Divvy.

 

[Sir Speedy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheBokke @ Jun 29 2009, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sir. Speedy @ Jun 30 2009, 10:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheBokke @ Jun 29 2009, 10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Last year we beat wales 3-0 and they still reckoned Wales were the better team.[/b]

Results only tell half the tale. Anywho, I'm not gonna dispute those games. That's ancient history. Just saying I'd rather our coaches be arrogant shits than imitations of Gareth Jenkins.
[/b][/quote]

Results prove one thing that there were winners and losers end of!!! Why defend the arrogance of your coaches it would be like me defending P Divvy.
[/b][/quote]
Oh please, apples and oranges. Being arrogant isn't in the same league as being openly racist.

 

[C A Iversen]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sir. Speedy @ Jun 30 2009, 10:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheBokke @ Jun 29 2009, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Sir. Speedy @ Jun 30 2009, 10:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheBokke @ Jun 29 2009, 10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Last year we beat wales 3-0 and they still reckoned Wales were the better team.[/b]

Results only tell half the tale. Anywho, I'm not gonna dispute those games. That's ancient history. Just saying I'd rather our coaches be arrogant shits than imitations of Gareth Jenkins.
[/b][/quote]

Results prove one thing that there were winners and losers end of!!! Why defend the arrogance of your coaches it would be like me defending P Divvy.
[/b][/quote]
Oh please, apples and oranges. Being arrogant isn't in the same league as being openly racist.
[/b][/quote]

Oh no, the race card! Someone play the ace of spades!

 

[bristol-iain]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUZyEbdQpPE


you asked..

 

[C A Iversen]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bristol-iain @ Jun 30 2009, 10:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUZyEbdQpPE


you asked..[/b]

What a set-up! :lol:

 

[Prestwick]

Bugger you beat me..

 

[KZNSharksFan]

Great game. Lions were unlucky, but thats just sport isnt it.

Burger was an asshole on the field, strange though that everyone he meets off the field reckons he's the nicest person they've ever met.
PDV.... I just dont know, enough has been said.
Ronan O'Gara should invest in a proper tackling technique.
Apart form Schalk's dirty little incident, I thought the dirt flew equally in both directions.

There was absolutely nothing wrong with Botha's clear out on Jones. It was just an unfortunate accident! Is anyone else mystified by that? I saw far dodgier clear outs in the game by players in both sides. I think its really just bull****!

You decide:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpSv4r_yJRI

ps

Schalk is lucky to only get 8 weeks for the eye gouge

 

[TheBokke]

Thats the thing is most people like Schalk and he is a pretty genuine guy. I ave heard he invites a lot of touring players to his house for BBQ's etc. He is not a dirty player normally, sure he gets penalised for rugby infringements not not dirty play.

It a shame that he committed this offence as it is going to live with him for ever. Luckily Luke came out it without any injury or my thoughts with be with him and not Schalk.

Not to sure why Botha got cited as it looked like a pretty normal clear out. If it was not for the injury I am sure he would not have been cited. Still its a shame Jones got badly injured in the process.