[2024 Six Nations] Wales vs Scotland - 03/02/24

[Saintjay]

A few of the Scottish players were sperm last time they won in Wales.

 

[Welsh Exile]

A few of the Scottish players were sperm last time they won in Wales.

Finn Russell was still in primary school. lol.

 

[dirty harry]

Who do you want to see play 15?

Noone in this squad lol...

Adam's is the only real option, and that's just because Grady has got a small bit of form, so we have wing cover.

Cairo Evan's and Tom Roger's are awful players right now, for club and country.

 

[dirty harry]

Scotland will win by 20, after a tough 50 mins or so, the uncapped dross will come off the Welsh bench for a SA pre RWC style dribbling IMHO.

 

[AlRums]

A few of the Scottish players were sperm last time they won in Wales.

What, four years ago?

 

[AlRums]

Scotland will win by 20, after a tough 50 mins or so, the uncapped dross will come off the Welsh bench for a SA pre RWC style dribbling IMHO.

I don't care about how many, just that Scotland get a BP win, preferably denying Wales a BP loss

 

[Saintjay]

What, four years ago?

Very true, to be exact the last time Scotland won at the Millenium Stadium some of the team were a twinkle in there Daddy's eye.

 

[Welsh Exile]

Noone in this squad lol...

Adam's is the only real option, and that's just because Grady has got a small bit of form, so we have wing cover.

Cairo Evan's and Tom Roger's are awful players right now, for club and country.

I actually like Rogers and think there's a player there but you know what, I just looked at his age thinking he was 22, 23 tops and he's 25 so no spring chicken anymore.

I think he's been used as a wing when he clearly isn't one. Definitely reminds me of a young Liam Williams and I'd have him as Winnets understudy moving forward but he does have to kick on

 

[dirty harry]

I actually like Rogers and think there's a player there but you know what, I just looked at his age thinking he was 22, 23 tops and he's 25 so no spring chicken anymore.

I think he's been used as a wing when he clearly isn't one. Definitely reminds me of a young Liam Williams and I'd have him as Winnets understudy moving forward but he does have to kick on

I know, I expected Roger's to be 21 last year when he got picked lol. It makes leaving Owen Lane out even more crazy, or even not throwing yourself at Feyi!

Winnet is benefitting from game time this season, it's probably a year early, and hed benefit from being eased in behind a better 15, I like him but he offers little in attack, and is poor under a high ball, defensively slack, and panics a bit. All attributes a young 15 have tbf to him.

For a 25 year old average clubman to back him up, I mean what's the point?

 

[dirty harry]

I don't care about how many, just that Scotland get a BP win, preferably denying Wales a BP loss

Cant see how it cant happen...

Unless...

 

[AlRums]

Very true, to be exact the last time Scotland won at the Millenium Stadium some of the team were a twinkle in there Daddy's eye.

No, the youngest, Harry Paterson, was born in jun 2001

 

[Saintjay]

No, the youngest, Harry Paterson, was born in jun 2001

I will never ever trust Jim Hamilton ever again promise.

 

[dullonien]

I know, I expected Roger's to be 21 last year when he got picked lol. It makes leaving Owen Lane out even more crazy, or even not throwing yourself at Feyi!

Winnet is benefitting from game time this season, it's probably a year early, and hed benefit from being eased in behind a better 15, I like him but he offers little in attack, and is poor under a high ball, defensively slack, and panics a bit. All attributes a young 15 have tbf to him.

For a 25 year old average clubman to back him up, I mean what's the point?

Amazing how two people can watch the same players and see something completely different! Imo Winnet looks remarkably assured for a fullback so young. He's shown glimpses in attack for Cardiff, both as a runner and distributor + he looked lethal at times for the U20's last year. His aerial ability is excellent, really assured. Defensively he's still learning, he can miss the odd one on one tackle, but his positioning is superb which is very encouraging. His kicking from hand is also excellent. If he wasn't injured, I'd be starting him on Sat.

I think you need to start looking for the positives in life

 

[dirty harry]

Amazing how two people can watch the same players and see something completely different! Imo Winnet looks remarkably assured for a fullback so young. He's shown glimpses in attack for Cardiff, both as a runner and distributor + he looked lethal at times for the U20's last year. His aerial ability is excellent, really assured. Defensively he's still learning, he can miss the odd one on one tackle, but his positioning is superb which is very encouraging. His kicking from hand is also excellent. If he wasn't injured, I'd be starting him on Sat.

I think you need to start looking for the positives in life

Coming from someone who sits 30 yards from him every other week, this is inaccurate. But like I said, the performance base is there, he just isnt ready. Hes a lesser Liam William's, and that's no bad thing at his age. But he is his age.

Hes in the similar stage as Mann, Mann also ripped it up at U20's, and hes got lots of potential, but he also is not ready.

 

[Welsh Exile]

Talk is Winnet is going to start. Apparently he's trained this week so his broken jaw has healed well. Goes to show how highly Gatland must rate him to put him straight in after an injury like that for a kid.

 

[Welsh Exile]

I assume Rowlands is injured. FFS. Also annoying North didn't pull through. Can't lie don't like the look of that team at all really. I'll join @dirty harry ranks and say we'll lose this comfortably.

Wales: 15. Cameron Winnett, 14. Josh Adams, 13. Owen Watkin, 12. Nick Tompkins 11. Rio Dyer, 10. Sam Costelow 9. Gareth Davies; 1. Corey Domachowski, 2. Ryan Elias, 3. Leon Brown, 4. Adam Beard, 5. Dafydd Jenkins (c), 6. James Botham, 7. Tommy Reffell, 8. Aaron Wainwright

Replacements: 16. Elliot Dee, 17. Kemsley Mathias, 18. Keiron Assiratti, 19. Teddy Williams, 20. Alex Mann, 21. Tomos Williams, 22. Ioan Lloyd 23. Mason Grady

 

[Welsh Exile]

Gatland confirmed Rowlands isn't injured but his wife had a baby a couple of weeks ago and there was some complications so Gats said come back when you're ready. Hope his wife and baby are all good. I'll take another Beard performance for that reason.

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

I assume Rowlands is injured. FFS. Also annoying North didn't pull through. Can't lie don't like the look of that team at all really. I'll join @dirty harry ranks and say we'll lose this comfortably.

Wales: 15. Cameron Winnett, 14. Josh Adams, 13. Owen Watkin, 12. Nick Tompkins 11. Rio Dyer, 10. Sam Costelow 9. Gareth Davies; 1. Corey Domachowski, 2. Ryan Elias, 3. Leon Brown, 4. Adam Beard, 5. Dafydd Jenkins (c), 6. James Botham, 7. Tommy Reffell, 8. Aaron Wainwright

Replacements: 16. Elliot Dee, 17. Kemsley Mathias, 18. Keiron Assiratti, 19. Teddy Williams, 20. Alex Mann, 21. Tomos Williams, 22. Ioan Lloyd 23. Mason Grady

Yeah that's pretty underwhelming.

Big pressure on Jenkins. Irrespective of what he's done recently at Chiefs he's still very young and inexperienced. As recently as the RWC he was only getting cameos off the bench.

If things start going wrong there aren't many wise old heads to get them back on track.

 

[Welsh Exile]

Yeah that's pretty underwhelming.

Big pressure on Jenkins. Irrespective of what he's done recently at Chiefs he's still very young and inexperienced. As recently as the RWC he was only getting cameos off the bench.

If things start going wrong there aren't many wise old heads to get them back on track.

The forward options in the bench. Jesus. I was hoping for Brown and Domachoski on the bench but got Mathias (who I'm not a fan of tbh) and I like Mann and Teddy Williams as prospects but as you rightly say zero experience there. Oh well. Hopefully we can put together 20/30 mins of some half decent rugby and keep the loss within 15 points but I'm doubtful on both counts.

 

[Welsh Exile]

If Scotland don't put 30 points on us they should docked points. If they lose to this team in Cardiff for a 23rd consecutive time then they should be thrown out of the 6N