[2021 Six Nations] France vs Wales (20/03/2021)

[Welsh Exile]

Let's all agree he is wonderfully durable, we'd all love our favourite players to be as durable as he has proven to be.

He's more than durable. If he was just durable he wouldn't make the team. We'll obviously have to agree to disagree as it's clear everyone on here thinks he's average though his trophy cabinet will say otherwise.

 

[Dai Yorkshire]

Personally there's a little bit of me that I quite like. The narrative from a lot of England fans is that it's only the Welsh who are petty and bitter and obsess over England but your typical Tory voting, Daily Mail reading barrister English rugby fan naturally assumes they are so much better, a better class of people if you like, and are therefore above all of that nonsense. The reality is they hate us more than anyone and I have little doubt that if ISIS managed to put a match day squad against us they would cheer them on till the final whistle. At least people on here admit that hatred rather than pretending they're above it all

I think that might be a bit strong ,to tar every one with the same brush, some yes as they don't know any better so we should forgive them, I have found through my dealings with them that they are a lot like us. If you forgive your enemies they will hate you even more.

 

[ForumWhore]

AWJ's biggest problem is something he can't be blamed for and that's the Welsh media. Their fawning over him is vomit inducing stuff and is often done as a direct comparison to English rugby's hate figure of the day. He's a bit like a Dave Grohl of the rugby world. Competent but a bit of a media whore.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Easier to last so long when you don't need to care about the club/franchise side of things tbf.

 

[Mr.cyclopede]

To get back to the match, some interesting figures to show the momentum of the match shifted around the 65/70th minute

Figures came back positive at the last moment
They say numbers don't lie. They therefore also retrace the twelve minutes of madness that rocked the meeting. For 70 minutes, Wayne Pivac's men dominated almost all statistical categories: more than 55% possession, more than 55% occupation of the field and much less tackles on the clock than the French (73 at halftime , against 115 to the Blues).

But, everything changed at the end of the game. France finished with 175 tackles (94% success) and the Welsh with 226 (84% success). Fabien Galthié's men regained possession (51%) and the occupation was shared (50%).

Above all, the Welsh penalties have piled up. Sanctioned four times in the first half, the Welsh were sanctioned ten times in the second, while the French went from a conceded penalty to six. Fabien Galthié also pointed it out to his captain when he arrived at a press conference. "There was forty minutes of actual playing time, and we were penalized six times."

Last point: meters made ball in hand. While the Red Devils had gained 211 meters in the first half, against 163 meters to the French, the end of the match also reversed the trend. The Blues finish with 462 meters gained, against only 297 meters to their visitors. One more consequence of the tricolor fury over the last twelve minutes.

Well, not interpreting the stats as you do, more or so 55% is not that extraordinary, moreover a very balanced number. we have in the past oftenly seen games with much more high numbers not revelating the truth of them, even less their final score.

would say also that if I was jumping on my sofa watching Les Bleus asking for a scrum after the penalty in the last minutes, wastinf precious seconds maybe minutes, it was the goog en better choice while you have to play 14 vs 13 and pretend to play spaces ans baclines.

 

[ncurd]

AWJ's biggest problem is something he can't be blamed for and that's the Welsh media. Their fawning over him is vomit inducing stuff and is often done as a direct comparison to English rugby's hate figure of the day. He's a bit like a Dave Grohl of the rugby world. Competent but a bit of a media whore.

People don't like Dave Grohl?

 

[ForumWhore]

People don't like Dave Grohl?

I don't know him personally but The Foos are utter turd.

 

[Welsh Exile]

Everyone knows Max Boyce is the GOAT

 

[ForumWhore]

I've seen Max Boyce live. Park and Dare about 20 years ago. Funny for about 15 minutes. It was a long evening.

 

[bushytop]

AWJ's biggest problem is something he can't be blamed for and that's the Welsh media. Their fawning over him is vomit inducing stuff and is often done as a direct comparison to English rugby's hate figure of the day. He's a bit like a Dave Grohl of the rugby world. Competent but a bit of a media whore.

Can you even imagine how the English media would act about AWJ if he were English and had achieved the same (caps and slams etc) in a white shirt...

 

[ForumWhore]

Can you even imagine how the English media would act about AWJ if he were English and had achieved the same in a white shirt...

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Well, yes, they'd make a fuss I guess, but without the Wales comparisons.

 

[Welsh Exile]

Can you even imagine how the English media would act about AWJ if he were English and had achieved the same in a white shirt...

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Well Itoje and Curry are still the best players in the world apparently even with a 5th place finish and getting done by average OAPs like AWJ

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Don't need to imagine

 

[ForumWhore]

The other issue is that the fawning is more often than not, absolutely nothing to do with rugby.

AWJ smiled at a child, what a guy
AWJ held a door open, the prince of Wales
AWJ has literally just turned water in to wine.

Etc.

 

[bushytop]

Don't need to imagine

Lol at 84 caps...

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

365 club games
84 caps
7 Domestic/Premiership ***les
2 European ***les
2 grand slams
6 triple crowns
1 RWC
3 lions tour
1 Lions tour winning captain

v

238 club games
156 test games
3 Pro 12
3 Grand slams
4 triple crowns
2 Lions tour (1 win, 1 draw)

I would've done the chad Johnson and virgin AWJ meme but too lazy ATM.
one is going down as a legend for Country the other is going down as a legend for club and country.

 

[AlRums]

You do relalise It's only the EngIrish that dislike us .
Go and ask the rest of the rugby nations and see what answer you get.
I'm pretty sure we will have more like than England pal.

No, other nations too

 

[bushytop]

365 club games
84 caps
7 Domestic/Premiership ***les
2 european ***les
2 grand slams
1 RWC
3 lions tour
1 Lions tour winning captain
v

238 club games
156 test games
3 Pro 12
3 Grand slams
3 Lions tour (1 win, 1 draw & 1 loss)

I would've done the chad Johnson and virgin AWJ meme but too lazy ATM.

FTFY

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Still know which career I would rather have

 

[Welsh Exile]

Martin Johnson is a big fan of AWJ isn't he?