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[2021 Six Nations] England Squad

Itoje = most overrated player in the history of rugby. Just in front of Owen Farrell.

Just evening the troll scales this morning.
 
Honestly whilst searching my brain I can't think of a Welsh player I'd consider dirty. Whilst certainly under Gartand I think the cynacism of thier play was high like slowing down rucks I can't think of any time I thought that guy just did something disgusting.
 
Honestly whilst searching my brain I can't think of a Welsh player I'd consider dirty. Whilst certainly under Gartand I think the cynacism of thier play was high like slowing down rucks I can't think of any time I thought that guy just did something disgusting.

To be fair, Francis didn't cover himself in glory when he did that eye gouge/scratch on Coles I believe it was a few years back

having said that I agree in general and I don't think Francis is a particularly dirty player but it didn't look good.
 
Honestly whilst searching my brain I can't think of a Welsh player I'd consider dirty. Whilst certainly under Gartand I think the cynacism of thier play was high like slowing down rucks I can't think of any time I thought that guy just did something disgusting.
As mentioned elsewhere, Liam Williams. While he's never been the worst, he's been a bit of a **** at times.
 
To be fair, Francis didn't cover himself in glory when he did that eye gouge/scratch on Coles
I believe it was a few years back
Ah I forgot that one yes should of been miles off for that.
 
To be fair, Francis didn't cover himself in glory when he did that eye gouge/scratch on Coles I believe it was a few years back

having said that I agree in general and I don't think Francis is a particularly dirty player but it didn't look good.
Well Francis is English, so I'm surprised you didn't Chuck that into the mix for his dirtiness haha
 
Stil waiting for a game where Itoje bullies or out plays AWJ. Maybe next week???
Honestly can't remember a time that AWJ outplayed Itoje???

I think Itoje's debut was against Wales (or at least it was in Itojes debut Six Nations) and Itoje played AWJ off the park so badly that even Wales online were begrudgingly complimentary of his performance


It spawned this image:
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Honestly whilst searching my brain I can't think of a Welsh player I'd consider dirty. Whilst certainly under Gartand I think the cynacism of thier play was high like slowing down rucks I can't think of any time I thought that guy just did something disgusting.

Tom Francis did an eye gouge once but it wasn't too serious, more he raked his fingers across Cole's eyes.
 
Honestly can't remember a time that AWJ outplayed Itoje???

I think Itoje's debut was against Wales (or at least it was in Itojes debut Six Nations) and Itoje played AWJ off the park so badly that even Wales online were begrudgingly complimentary of his performance
There was also the Lions tour where admittedly they were on the same side and nobody remembers who the other 2nd rows were ;)
 
Honestly can't remember a time that AWJ outplayed Itoje???

I think Itoje's debut was against Wales (or at least it was in Itojes debut Six Nations) and Itoje played AWJ off the park so badly that even Wales online were begrudgingly complimentary of his performance


It spawned this image:
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Im just on a wind up. Itoje is a brilliant player. As is Alun Wyn, obviously. Always interesting battles between the 2 when they play and I'm sure next week will be no different.
 
Let's be clear AWJ had 2-3 years where he was great those years were a number of years back now.

You don't get 150 odd caps and go on 4
Lions tours (soon to be 4) by having 2-3 good years mate. You have to be world class (I.e put in consistent performances)
 
You don't get 150 odd caps and go on 4
Lions tours (soon to be 4) by having 2-3 good years mate. You have to be world class (I.e put in consistent performances)
You do if your overrated and were not even the best lock on the last tour and the coach picking was your national coach for your whole career.
 
You do if your overrated and were not even the best lock on the last tour and the coach picking was your national coach for your whole career.

Ha ha. Ok bud. If you say so.

What is going to be the reason for Gatland picking him this summer then?
 
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