Half the forum turned South African with how bad the initial squad announcement was, tbf
That's because it's a call-up from yesterday if 2 players not from months ago and the entire squad which had so many many issues it was hard to focus on one guy.
Beard is bigger than Hill isn't he?
Initially definitely not. But If you asked me if kieran read could still play after a year in Japan, your damn right he could
Fair enough. I think you're bit bonkers if you would've taken Kruis as no one in world Rugby was seriously suggesting a guy playing no international rugby and sub standard club rugby for the best part of a year was a good shout for a lions tour but each to their own.
I mean you're basically saying you cant introduce uncapped players by this logic, and obviously a 45 cap player will adjust easily. He's been playing a different style of game and will probably come back a better player for it, Joe merchant did from NZ rugby. But yeah I guess I do wish it was a fit launchbury instead, he likely would've been going
No I'm not saying that, you're always going to take 1 or 2 uncapped players but there's also a reason why you only take a small handful of hem on each tour. It's not just the lack of international rugby it's that coupled with the fact he's been playing in Japan. You could be generous and say he's learning g a new style but so have the Sarries boys but at least they played some international rugby even if they were a bit ****. I think we'll just have to agree to disagree I guess as we have different standards about the level of rugby people should be playing to be considered for a Lions
Ryan is injured so not in the conversation.
Lol oh yeahhhhh. I would be outraged for Gray but I don't really care
My point is, that people were happy to admit they were wrong (or stay silent) about the Welsh bias when the squad was announced (as there clearly wasn't any) as you had joke selections like Johnny Hill and, to a lesser degree, Courtney Lawes (as well as 1 or 2 others) but none of them were due to perceived Welsh bias and people seemed ok with that (from a Welsh bias perspective at least, people obviously disagreed with certain selections but this is true of every tour) but now we have 1 player. 1 ******* replacement player who's been called up over 1 other player (Gray) and the Gatlands Welsh bias narrative has reared its head again totally ignoring that if Gatlands has shown any preferential treatment to any one nation its the English as they were truly terrible in the 6N.
I thought AWJ won those ***les singlehandedly, with his talismanic brilliance?
You're straw manning my position. If it is my position you're trying to mock?
I have a forum challenge. Let's list 10 locks who should be in before Adam Beard.
1. Johnny Gray
2, Scott Cummings
3. Joe Launchbury
4. Devon Toner
5. George Kruis
6. Dave Attwoood
7.
This is actually a good point. Considering how bad and average a player AWJ is and obviously Beard is even worse than that isn't it amazing that our 2 locks are that bad yet we still dominated England recently. It boggles the mind. It's almost like they're both decent rugby players or something. Who knows
