[2017 RBS Six Nations] Round 2: France vs Scotland (12/02/2017)

[valley commando]

You might wanna check the laws of the game. They say nothing about controlled grounding. He was touching the ball and exerted downward pressure when the ball touched the in-goal. That's a try.

Spot on mate it was a try

 

[pagliaccio_euforico]

You just need to get yourself a ref in the Jaco Peyper mould. And you're home and dry.

I will never say anything bad again about the 6N if Fra can produce again Top 14 form full of flair panache garlic and beaujolais nouveau.

good news, nigel owens will have the whistle for that match

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You might wanna check the laws of the game. They say nothing about controlled grounding. He was touching the ball and exerted downward pressure when the ball touched the in-goal. That's a try.

that's funny, the law actually says that "no downward pressure is required" but does say "holding the ball and touching the ground with it"

 

[corny]

Thats twice in a week now the French have been shafted by a SH referee. I think its good old fashioned racism because they don't speak English.

Scotland were illegal all over the pitch and had no platform to work from. They did well to be competitive.

The W is what France needed. They weren't convincing in the latter stages but i suspect they'll improve a lot on the back of that. Confidence is the main issue for them.

 

[FrenchFan]

good news, nigel owens will have the whistle for that match

oh gr8t blady news mate i'm delirah Nigel will penalise Fra all day. Can't wait.

 

[munstermuffin]

You southern Irish posters need to get a sense of humour bruv.

I've a great sense of humour bruv

 

[The Jones Boy]

Spot on mate it was a try

The pinky finger qualifies, it was a try and the poor bugger was robbed.

An entertaining game for the neutral.
This new look, new approach style France are showing reaped it's rewards yesterday with an important victory.
France are on the up and several of their players are standing up and taking responsibility for their performances.

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...and whose provinces + national team are coached by foreigners. Funny.

I think you just copped a bloody nose from a Frenchman Tigs...

Lol.

 

[gaston le gaff]

Finally a win for France was not pretty but winning ugly does count, yes they were are home and should have been favourites to win, but nothing is easy and we have seen with England who could have been, played 2 lost 2 but their excellent bench got them over the line. French are slowly understanding what they need to do to win, but at still throwing away so much, with these last ditch passes going astray and some individual play when it could have been unit play. Find a couple of French boys on the wing and send are 2 Fijians back to sevens where they belong. How can you play a guy who has no club, and does not play in the Top 14 week in week out, would this happen in any other country, no i doubt that very much. Ireland up next and i do not expect France to win in Dublin but if they show a little of that Irish fighting spirit it will do them no harm. Many have critised the French mostly from Blighty as they have enjoyed their downfall but we did not get knocked out of our own WC. at the pool stages. France are not back just yet but they are improving, as you have to understand that every team now know your weakness's 2 weeks before the ko.

 

[MikeTheNative]

If France decided to not try the miracle offload every tackle I think they have the potential to be a very good side. As above I agree on Vakatawa, how can you play for a top international 15s team when you don't play it week in, week out for a club?

 

[FrenchFan]

Joel Jutge head of the European refs panel said Lamerat's ruled out try was def Not a try and Peyper was correct in his decision. He said control during grounding is paramount. This is a new amendment to rule 22.1 introduced since last June which doesn't actually appear in the set of rules many have referred to. Alain Rolland head of WR refs also confirmed Lamera's showing loss of control during grounding. Contact with pinky is not enough. http://www.lequipe.fr/Rugby/Actualites/Xv-de-france-d-apres-world-rugby-l-essai-de-remi-lamerat-n-etait-pas-valable/777831

Just relaying the information in French press. Not saying it should have been a try. Just getting clarification on a close call.

This does not exonerate Peyper for his poor performance over the course of the game though IMO. He missed many infringements. The most blatant was Nakaitaci tackled in mid air. Replay is clear. Should have been a yellow.

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

I think I must have a real blind spot with Peyper. I think he is consistently the most reliable and authoritative southern hemisphere referee but he is really singled out for treatment here. I generally go easy on refs, but I didn't have an issue with anything I really saw if that rule about grounding is accurate.

A strange rule for me, as it would rule out 99% of groundings resulting from a footrace for a grubber surely? There is rarely any control in those circumstances.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

I think I must have a real blind spot with Peyper. I think he is consistently the most reliable and authoritative southern hemisphere referee but he is really singled out for treatment here. I generally go easy on refs, but I didn't have an issue with anything I really saw if that rule about grounding is accurate.

A strange rule for me, as it would rule out 99% of groundings resulting from a footrace for a grubber surely? There is rarely any control in those circumstances.

He's completely spineless, can't make important calls and at times puts players in danger. This game, Ireland v France and NZ last year were ****shows and I usually have complaints everytime I see him, he rarely effects the result but thats because he doesn't enforce the rules to the point that the game is hardly rugby.

 

[FrenchFan]

I think he is consistently the most reliable and authoritative southern hemisphere referee but he is really singled out for treatment here.

LOL :lol: LOL

 

[The Jones Boy]

Peyper is not my favourite ref, he has been on a steep learning curve and he is still coming around the U bend.

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

Haha! In fairness you can't call a man that disallowed a critical French try in a French stadium spindless. What SH ref is better? Joubert? Gardner?

 

[FrenchFan]

Joubert has hit depths Peyper may one day aspire to at the rate he's going

 

[gaston le gaff]

Haha! In fairness you can't call a man that disallowed a critical French try in a French stadium spindless. What SH ref is better? Joubert? Gardner?

to be fair he did not call it or disallow it, the video ref did all that and the ref just agreed, not quite the same interpretation, so maybe spineless could be allowed.!!!

 

[TW27BA]

Haha! In fairness you can't call a man that disallowed a critical French try in a French stadium spindless. What SH ref is better? Joubert? Gardner?

Joubert has hit depths Peyper may one day aspire to at the rate he's going

It should be remembered that Craig Joubert is no longer refereeing. He retired in Dec '16

 

[FrenchFan]

His ghost now inhabits Peyper :vampire:

 

[pagliaccio_euforico]

I think I must have a real blind spot with Peyper. I think he is consistently the most reliable and authoritative southern hemisphere referee but he is really singled out for treatment here. I generally go easy on refs, but I didn't have an issue with anything I really saw if that rule about grounding is accurate.

A strange rule for me, as it would rule out 99% of groundings resulting from a footrace for a grubber surely? There is rarely any control in those circumstances.

Grounding the ball when ball is already on ground.

Player presses down on the ball. A player grounds the ball when it is on the ground in the in-goal and the player presses down on it with a hand or hands, arm or arms, or the front of the player's body from waist to neck inclusive.