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[2016 RBS Six Nations] Round 2: France vs. Ireland (13/02/2016)

Nobody said he was snail but he's nowhere near fast. He's average pace. I'd disagree in that I believe someone of a Zebo or Gilroy speed wouldn't have been caught by lock/6 in that scenario. But a winger isn't just about pace. But on ankle tap thing in that situation. Good footwork should've easily avoided that scenario vs England. Now I won't say DK has poor footwork as he is doesn't. He's good in tight areas but it's more in the open runs his footwork isn't as effective.

What's the incident you're discussing here?
 
What's the incident you're discussing here?
Two years ago Launchbury made a covering tackle on Dave Kearney in the 78th minute of the Ireland England game. Iirc, which I probably don't because I don't really care, Kearney had to check himself to receive the pass while Launchbury had already started to cover across.
 
Two years ago Launchbury made a covering tackle on Dave Kearney in the 78th minute of the Ireland England game. Iirc, which I probably don't because I don't really care, Kearney had to check himself to receive the pass while Launchbury had already started to cover across.

Ah yes, I remember the incident. Thanks.
 
He had Mike Brown to beat. It wasn't a case of just gassing Launchbury. If it was, Launchbury wouldn't have got to him.

Anyway i've read nothing to change my opinion that some of you are full of **** on this. Kearney's a good defender and he's not slow.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjCUrwJMMio

Wasn't very tight angle to be fair. He didn't really have to check run either Alpha. He was in to full stride just more a superb effort from Launchbury. It at end of clip posted ETR.

Cheers, nice to relive the moment, I enjoyed that day. Somehow I was the one that got trapped between the only two Irishmen in my rugby club watching that one so needed the win.

I wouldn't have said Kearney was slow there - top work from Launch, plus he broke stride a bit and came in towards him trying to beat Brown.

However, he certainly isn't express pace, I'm sure any of us could name several wingers who would have absolutely gassed that and Launch would have been out of the equation. "Fast" is a relative term, depending on position. He's not slow per se, but he certainly isn't a fast winger.

Or maybe I'm just full of ****
 
Dave Kearney = Anthony Horgan
I'm outta here
 
He had Mike Brown to beat. It wasn't a case of just gassing Launchbury. If it was, Launchbury wouldn't have got to him.

Anyway i've read nothing to change my opinion that some of you are full of **** on this. Kearney's a good defender and he's not slow.

Nobody is saying it was a certain try. Just he was caught
And fair enough you think he's fast and a great defender. A lot here don't agree with you. Doesn't make them full of **** because they don't agree with you.
 
you Irish guys are falling apart ARGUEING DISAGREEING when you need to be consolidated before the French game or you could be in trouble IN HOUSE FIGHTING IS NOT GOINGTO HELP YOUR CAUSE!!!!!!! beware of the sleeping giant Teddy Thomas cant tackle but he's bloody fast.!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Disarray in the Irish ranks means that we've got a chance of winning!!
Allez lez bleus!
 
He's not a burner, neither is Nowell. He's not as good Nowell but is a very good defender when not exposed by a weak 13 who was as much at fault against Argentina as the Kearney's. In an organised defence with both Ireland and Leinster he's safe as houses.
 
He's not a burner, neither is Nowell. He's not as good Nowell but is a very good defender when not exposed by a weak 13 who was as much at fault against Argentina as the Kearney's. In an organised defence with both Ireland and Leinster he's safe as houses.

Can't blame a 13 when it was in open play and poor tackling. I don't think anyone said DK is a poor defender or poor winger just outside Leinster a lot of people see him as a slow international winger and average defender who has flaws. As does other. But again I don't think you can blame Earls (who isn't a good 13 defensively) for Arg game that was jus poor defending from both Kearneys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38upQjuTMQA

Here's highlights -
I think for try 1 and 4 Dave was badly done. Rob was caught for 2 and well 3 both were done in committing.

Watching that I forgot how good Luke Fitz was when he came on.
 
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And fair enough you think he's fast and a great defender. A lot here don't agree with you. Doesn't make them full of **** because they don't agree with you.

No. I never said he was fast or a great defender. I said he wasn't slow and is a good defender. There's a difference. Anyway you made the claim. You said he 'lacks a lot of pace' and compared his defending to Simon Zebos. Thats Munster dogma!

He's not a burner, neither is Nowell. He's not as good Nowell but is a very good defender when not exposed by a weak 13 who was as much at fault against Argentina as the Kearney's. In an organised defence with both Ireland and Leinster he's safe as houses.

Agreed.
 
No. I never said he was fast or a great defender. I said he wasn't slow and is a good defender. There's a difference. Anyway you made the claim. You said he 'lacks a lot of pace' and compared his defending to Simon Zebos. Thats Munster dogma!



Agreed.

Yea as I said many outside Leinster do think he's a bad to average defender and is slow for winger. What's up with that?
Just because they don't agree with you doesn't make it bull**** or wrong.
Personally I think he's better than Zebo defensively but not by much. And before you say 'do I watch Leinster' yea I do and it's an opinion plenty will agree with and others won't. Doesn't make it bull****
 
I'm outside of Leinster and I would say he is a winger with decent defence and below average pace. The comparison to Nowell is very good, I would just say he isn't that good but definitely in the same mould. It is pretty irrelevant anyway as when Trimble, Bowe, Earls, Fitzgerald and Zebo (If seen as a winger) are all ahead of him IMO.
 
I'm outside of Leinster and I would say he is a winger with decent defence and below average pace. The comparison to Nowell is very good, I would just say he isn't that good but definitely in the same mould. It is pretty irrelevant anyway as when Trimble, Bowe, Earls, Fitzgerald and Zebo (If seen as a winger) are all ahead of him IMO.

But just my point is everyone will have different opinion
 
A French win would be something of a shock result but not an impossibility!

France have a lot of weaknesses (Chouly and the two wingers in particular) and will need to be somewhere near their top form which has not been seen for too long....

Said before that Thomas is undercooked through injury and he and Vakatawa could be defensive liabilities under the Sexton boot?
 
I see Stephen Ferris having a go at Schmidt for not including more Ulster players. Crazy as it sounds, if Ireland lose this match, Herr Schmidt will be heavily criticised. So for his sake France have to be still in rebuilding mode.
 
I see Stephen Ferris having a go at Schmidt for not including more Ulster players. Crazy as it sounds, if Ireland lose this match, Herr Schmidt will be heavily criticised. So for his sake France have to be still in rebuilding mode.

I think there is a legitimate case for McCloskey and Jackson in 23. Not sure after who else. Marshall is kind of against McCloskey for a spot.
 
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