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[2014 Mid-Year Tests] Ireland

No more Mr Nice Guy as Tommy O’Donnell sets out to prove a point
Appetite whetted by his first Irish caps backrower is hungry for success


Munster’s Tommy O’Donnell was disappointed to lose his place on the Irish bench after the Wales Six Nations match. photograph: Billy Stickland/Inpho

Gerry Thornley
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Sat, Mar 29, 2014, 14:18
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Tommy O’Donnell has changed in the last year or so. The first thing that strikes you is that he has bulked up, particularly around his shoulders, after using 10 enforced weeks out from the game this season to add a few kilos, mostly to keep sane as he puts it. And having been given a first few tastes of playing for Ireland, there’s a new-found hunger that is palpable.
Until a year or so ago, one former Munster player wondered if O’Donnell was a little too nice for his own good. Innately pleasant and polite, it would always be stretching things to say “No More Mr Nice Guyâ€, but after winning his first couple of caps on the summer tour, and then sampling the Six Nations on home soil off the bench against Scotland and Wales, like so many others forced to watch on the outside, O’Donnell is desperate for more like never before. He now believes there’s more silverware in this Munster squad, and more international games in him.
Of all the Munster hard-luck stories during the Six Nations, O’Donnell’s is probably the unluckiest. He didn’t appear to do too much wrong in his 13- and 16-minute cameos against Scotland and Wales, but the meticulously demanding Joe Schmidt raised some defensive issues with him after the latter game.
Thereafter, although O’Donnell has also played across the back row and Jordi Murphy has similarly been focusing more on open side this season, he missed out to the latter for the remainder of the tournament.
There’s no point in beating about the bush. That must have hurt bad.
“I thought it went pretty well,†says O’Donnell of the Welsh game. “I didn’t really see it coming and I would be lying to say I wasn’t disappointed. I really didn’t think I had played that badly, but obviously Joe decided he wanted to freshen up the bench and John (Plumtree) felt that Jordi could offer something, so you have to respect that. John gave me a couple of things to work on, so that’s what you have to do, go away and work on them.â€
“Joe decided that’s the way he wanted to go and at the end of the day he’s the coach, he decides. You can’t let it eat away at you. You have to move on and clear your head because that’s what he’s looking for as well.
“He’s looking for players that can do that, that come in and out of the squad and that take the good with the bad. That’s what makes a good rugby player, like you don’t dwellon the past.â€



That's a bit of an interview Gerry Thornley did with TOD. Pretty much says what Feic and BG8 say didn't.
 
That's a bit of an interview Gerry Thornley did with TOD. Pretty much says what Feic and BG8 say didn't.

No it doesn't. I said I can't remember or find anything said publicly as in by the coaching staff. They're the only ones who can scapegoat a player and they didn't. If they'd scapegoated him they and not TO'D would have brought it up in public and been blaming him for something bad happening. I said he was dropped which he was, that's not scapegoating at all. By the way you can make all your tackles and still make some defensive errors.
 
No it doesn't. I said I can't remember or find anything said publicly as in by the coaching staff. They're the only ones who can scapegoat a player and they didn't. If they'd scapegoated him they and not TO'D would have brought it up in public and been blaming him for something bad happening. I said he was dropped which he was, that's not scapegoating at all. By the way you can make all your tackles and still make some defensive errors.

Well what I said was some see it as scapegoating and there's my reason why. Dropped for what reason as I said people's views will differ but a lot like me think he was a scapegoat and have strong reason to back it up. Was he only 1 so bad to be dropped despite making tackles?
As I said everyone has their own view people can make their own mind
 
They'll find any reason to be bitter in Munster it would seem.
 
They'll find any reason to be bitter in Munster it would seem.

Well truth hurts I suppose.

Also maybe the more bitter we are the better we play :) it's getting like old days and I like it ........ I like it alot.
 
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Tuesday fro what I heard or Wednesday.

A hope at a squad: (Presuming everyone's going)

Healy, Kilcoyne, McGrath
Best, Cronin, Varley
Ross, Moore, Ah You

POC Toner Henderson Foley

Ruddock Heaslip Henry
Copeland ,1 of TOD Dougall Murphy

Murray Reddan Marmion

Sexton Keatley Jackson

Henshaw D'Arcy Marshall Cave

Earls Zebo Bowe Trimble McFadden
R. Kearney
 
Tuesday fro what I heard or Wednesday.

A hope at a squad: (Presuming everyone's going)

Healy, Kilcoyne, McGrath
Best, Cronin, Varley
Ross, Moore, Ah You

POC Toner Henderson Foley

Ruddock Heaslip Henry
Copeland ,1 of TOD Dougall Murphy

Murray Reddan Marmion

Sexton Keatley Jackson

Henshaw D'Arcy Marshall Cave

Earls Zebo Bowe Trimble McFadden
R. Kearney

Cheers mate, I'd pick close to same but :

Herring for Varley
Seaney for TOD or Murphy? Though I think he maybe should be given summer off
I don't really want to bring McFadden but couldn't think who else we could?
 
What Peat said. Zeebs out, Varley out, Killer out, Madigan in place of Sexton, don't bother bringing D'Arcy he needs a break and that concludes my Munster hunt! :p
 
I'd heard that depending on injuries the squad will be announced tomorrow.

I'd say the squad will be about 27 or 28 large certainly not over 30.

Word is baby Sexton is due in June so I'm sure that'll play some role.
 
I'd heard that depending on injuries the squad will be announced tomorrow.

I'd say the squad will be about 27 or 28 large certainly not over 30.

Word is baby Sexton is due in June so I'm sure that'll play some role.

Word is Sexton, POC and Healy but Schmidt has said he wanted as strong as he could get.
 
Was talking to few Munster players at BBQ.
News is ......... Zebo is going to Argentina. Keatley was told he still has a lot to do to be near squad which is harsh but it seems from what I gather. A full strength squad is going and Munster representatives are POC, Kilcoyne and Varley in forwards. Earls, Zebo and Murray in backs.
Foley, Dougall and Conway are on emerging Ireland at moment
 
Was talking to few Munster players at BBQ.
News is ......... Zebo is going to Argentina. Keatley was told he still has a lot to do to be near squad which is harsh but it seems from what I gather. A full strength squad is going and Munster representatives are POC, Kilcoyne and Varley in forwards. Earls, Zebo and Murray in backs.
Foley, Dougall and Conway are on emerging Ireland at moment

Very harsh on Keatley, made massive improvements since the turn of the year and deserves a spot ahead of Madigan in my opinion. Foley is the other one who I would say should be in the squad but Dougall and Conway should be in emerging Ireland
 
IRELAND Squad (Summer Tour, Argentina, June 2014):

Forwards (16) -

Rory Best (Banbridge/Ulster) 75
James Cronin (Dolpin/Munster) *
Robbie Diack (Malone/Ulster) *
Iain Henderson (Ballynahinch/Ulster) 10
Chris Henry (Malone/Ulster) 14
Jamie Heaslip (Dublin University/Leinster) 65
Rob Herring (Ballynahinch/Ulster) *
Dave Kilcoyne (UL Bohemians/Munster) 8
Jack McGrath (St. Mary's College/Leinster) 8
Martin Moore (Lansdowne/Leinster) 5
Jordi Murphy (Lansdowne/Leinster) 2
Paul O'Connell (Young Munster/Munster) (capt) 92
Mike Ross (Clontarf/Leinster) 39
Rhys Ruddock (St. Mary's College/Leinster) 2
Devin Toner (Lansdowne/Leinster) 15
Damien Varley (Garryowen/Munster) 2

Backs (14) -

Darren Cave (Belfast Harlequins/Ulster) 5
Keith Earls (Young Munster/Munster) 39
Robbie Henshaw (Buccaneers/Connacht) 3
Paddy Jackson (Dungannon/Ulster) 9
Felix Jones (Shannon/Munster) 5
Rob Kearney (UCD/Leinster) 54
Kieran Marmion (Corinthians/Connacht) *
Luke Marshall (Ballynahinch/Ulster) 5
Fergus McFadden (Old Belvedere/Leinster) 26
Conor Murray (Garryowen/Munster) 27
Eoin Reddan (Lansdowne/Leinster) 54
Johnny Sexton (Racing Metro 92) 43
Andrew Trimble (Ballymena/Ulster) 55
Simon Zebo (Cork Constitution/Munster) 6
 
what's the situation with SOB and Ferris again ? injured, or just not coming/resting ?
Cool squad. Right amount of new blood and experience. Is BOD finally done at int'l level ?
 
Ferris has an ankle injury again.... he only just came back form longterm injury.

SOB longterm injury, should be ok for the new season.
 
Ferris has an ankle injury again.... he only just came back form longterm injury.

SOB longterm injury, should be ok for the new season.

Thanks. Yeah was aware of both, just wondering what their status was right now, this very moment. So we'll likely see Ferris in November, but still no SOB ?
 
Ferris has an ankle injury again.... he only just came back form longterm injury.

SOB longterm injury, should be ok for the new season.

SOB's actually had two games back, but there are rumors now that he may be injured again. I think he would've had the summer off anyway.
 
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