[2014 EOYT] France vs Australia

[gaston le gaff]

Well if anyone ever had any doubts, here's the proof that you're French.

must be tough being so critical of the French then you losing both your games my heart weeps for you two games and at home i ask you "THE DECLINE"

 

[Horacito]

I don't think so, I prefered an Aussie victory and then we bury the dead. Now they feel they have risen, that's not good for us

I don't think this team can do anything as professional as bury the dead: everything we can achieve can only come from fear and doubts and attitude, and to estimulate that, a team that comes from defeating Australia is better than one who losed miserably. Hope they don't give the match already to les bleus, and that's it. They need a shock and become mature players, stop being kids.

Cathartic defeat or cathartic victory, those are our choices.

 

[gaston le gaff]

Gaston, I'm going to stick a bet on for Ireland to win the slam and the World Cup, you do the same for France and when one of them eventually happens whoever of the two of us wins buys the other a Guinness! You game?!

Fine by me but if its a draw we have to buy each other Guinness still the first drops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Big Ewis]

must be tough being so critical of the French then you losing both your games my heart weeps for you two games and at home i ask you "THE DECLINE"

read his posts throughout this thread he's been frowning reaaaally hard all night long it's just a treat
So this is really cool for us and I do think we'll beat Argentina next week and make it 3/3, but it'll be interesting to see how and what this form we're on is. Will it be like 2012, just a random moment of quality (albeit not as good as 2012 per se) or is it smt we can build on and fine-tune ?...never know with us. Never.

 

[Jaguares]

I don't think this team can do anything as professional as bury the dead: everything we can achieve can only come from fear and doubts and attitude, and to estimulate that, a team that comes from defeating Australia is better than one who losed miserably. Hope they don't give the match already to les bleus, and that's it. They need a shock and become mature players, stop being kids.

Cathartic defeat or cathartic victory, those are our choices.

I prefer to avoid another disaster like Soweto 2013. This isn't a good start for next week

 

[gaston le gaff]

These are the moments of pure fantasy, so many knock the French!!!!!!! love them to lose and then when the Rosbifs get 2 spankings at home everything goes quiet!!!!!!!!
I JUST LOVE IT ............... SWING LOW SWEET CHARIOTS, need to send them to Renault the wheels have fallen off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and whats more Conrad is really worried and its not even tommorrow yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[TheSaffycen]

These are the moments of pure fantasy, so many knock the French!!!!!!! love them to lose and then when the Rosbifs get 2 spankings at home everything goes quiet!!!!!!!!
I JUST LOVE IT ............... SWING LOW SWEET CHARIOTS, need to send them to Renault the wheels have fallen off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and whats more Conrad is really worried and its not even tommorrow yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2 spankings ? Both a 3 point loss, against the best 2 teams in the world. You beat Fiji and Oz..

 

[Jaguares]

These are the moments of pure fantasy, so many knock the French!!!!!!! love them to lose and then when the Rosbifs get 2 spankings at home everything goes quiet!!!!!!!!
I JUST LOVE IT ............... SWING LOW SWEET CHARIOTS, need to send them to Renault the wheels have fallen off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and whats more Conrad is really worried and its not even tommorrow yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well well, two games and think that you are superheroes????????

 

[Horacito]

easy to love french supporters with this cool, elegant pose they have

 

[TRF_Olyy]

must be tough being so critical of the French then you losing both your games my heart weeps for you two games and at home i ask you "THE DECLINE"

I actually really like France, certainly more than Australia. My parents live there, I've spent a large portion of my life in the country and I support France in Rugby League (the national side and my super league side is the Catalans).
What I'm not is one eyed and blind to transgressions. France were very very lucky on a number of occasions with their foul play. Australia were very very lucky not to lose Skelton to the bin (I think he should've gone, not binning him just because the player didn't land on his head is a weird one) but other than that they didn't get the rub of the green. Hooper shouldn't have been binned for his high tackle as it was clearly an accident and not malicious - the French player was landing from a jump and ducked slightly - this coupled with Hooper coming in hell for leather on the blitz saw his tackle go high.

People are too paranoid to see some conspiracy from posters on here with regards to how they view others nations/teams. I don't hate France, I'm not "butthurt" about their win because I wanted them to win, and also had money on them to win.




Also it's very easy to make something of England's two losses but they were against the number 1 and number 2 in the World.
France played Fiji and Australia - not really comparable to the All Blacks and the Springboks.

There's no need for cheap WUMing/trolling.

 

[Mr.cyclopede]

Well if anyone ever had any doubts, here's the proof that you're French.

I'm too and I approve his message !
how many warnings to Aussies for dangerous game vs a direct yellow to Tales...

Leroux and dumoulin especially brilliant, and everywhere on the field. Glad we have found in Lopez a pure FH, been waiting for ages...

 

[TRF_Olyy]

I'm too and I approve his message !
how many warnings to Aussies for dangerous game vs a direct yellow to Tales...

There wasn't though. They got a warning for a high tackle, and there weren't any more after. They got a warning for taking the man at the lineout (should've been a yellow, though) and they didn't do it again.
France conceded a goal line penalty after a break away - 99 times out of 100 that's a yellow, and Owens awarded it rightly (seems he learnt his lesson after the 1st All Blacks/England test when he didn't give one to NZ )

 

[Darwin]

Well that's the last time I copy Planet Rugby's prediction.... :huh:

Overall I really enjoyed this match. I thought France were clearly the better side - they looked more dangerous with ball in hand, and made less than half the errors Australia made - though their ill-discipline almost cost them in the end. It was entertaining watching the Wallabies scrum dominate in that first half, though France improved immensely in this area when they changed their props in the 2nd half.

I was impressed with both of the French wings, though Thomas did make a few errors. I thought both the hookers France used played well, and as mentioned previously both reserves props made a massive impact (as did the prop they had in the 23 jersey ).

I thought McCalman worked hard for Australia, but Hooper had one of his quieter games of the year. Foley did some good things with ball in hand, and his goal-kicking was flawless too. The rest of the backs were pretty well contained, and I was surprised to see AAC miss a couple of 1-on-1 tackles...

 

[Big Ewis]

I'm too and I approve his message !
how many warnings to Aussies for dangerous game vs a direct yellow to Tales...

Leroux and dumoulin especially brilliant, and everywhere on the field. Glad we have found in Lopez a pure FH, been waiting for ages...

ah tiens, te revoilà toi...the fact the staff left Talès on the bench although they were on his dick for months prior and picked Lopez to start not just for an "easy" Fiji game but also here against a top world side was very encouraging. And yes Aus really got very lucky with the ref, but fortunately the best team won and that's that. I would've been gutted to lose this one just at the end because of the one break, maaan...although it's just a test match and not anything more, we really didn't deserve to go down like that. Very fortunate the "right team" got away with it. A draw would've been fkng awful as well...

 

[Tony Manx]

5000th post....yippeeeee!!

is that Teddy Thomas guy actually french ?

No - he is not...................he is a Basque as born in BIARRITZ!!!! Good to see him playing international rugby without the leg strapping that he always wore when he played for us................miracle or better medical attention!!!!

Very enjoyable and the best match of the weekend.......best I have seen France play for some time and deserved their win.

I would worry about the front row at times, the half backs were terrific, Teddy is a wonderful attacker (but you have to worry about his defence and how that will be attacked in games to come), the French effort, stamina and desire was, to me, the main difference.

Love it that Spedding is there playing....genuine guy!

Has PSA played his cards right and are we seeing a renaissance as the French team move into the ascendancy as England are going backwards.........looking forward to the twists and turns of the 6N already!!!

 

[Big Ewis]

congrats Tony.
I think people are reading into these past two weeks of int'l Rugby too much:
- England were propelled too far: they beat the AB in 2012 and everybody thought they'd dominate the 6N and sure enough they won games then, albeit in a very lackluster way, and then got smashed and found out in Cardiff. Again in 2014 everybody thought they were really good in the 6N and on the rise but the truth is Scotland were really that bad during that tournament to lose 0-20 at home, SA had inflicted a similar score previously and they can thank God Cotter's here now, and Italy we've seen just how awful they were turning progressively. England pushed NZ in 2 of 3 tests, but so did a dysfunctional amateur-coached France a year prior. France were also diminished in their lineup in the first test (for the same reasons, club finals), and they managed much closer tests in 1 and 3 than the score shows. Picamoles grabs that awful pass 5m from the line and scores with a boulevard before him and Test 1 is possibly the only All-Blacks defeat of their invincible 2013 run. If you play good enough defense alone, you can make it really close.
England losing those 5 in a row doesn't come as a surprise to me at all. They're good, but they're not SA's equal. The team that's really good right now in Europe is Ireland.

- France: same thing. I'm not all that surprised. Our level right now is the one I was expecting this whole time after the awful start to 2013. I thought even with a pathetic coaching staff, our guys would at least find some form of cohesiveness and just play their Top 14 Rugby. What Thomas, Spedding, Huget, Fofana, etc...are doing is just what they do every weekend in the Top 14 against top opposition. So I don't think it's a matter of "PSA playing his cards right", the tactical/technical flaws were there, I think it's more of the same: France survive or win games based solely on the quality of their individual components, it's just lately things have clicked a little better because of changes and natural evolution. But this is still the PSA-era France.
I'm not looking forward to the 6N just yet, we've got Twickenham and Aviva and we still need to confirm and work on a number of things and we'll just never be as good as we should/could be under PSA and Lagisquet.

 

[munstermuffin]

Fine by me but if its a draw we have to buy each other Guinness still the first drops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can I have in I'd never drop. But France have no chance of slam or World Cup.

 

[The Jones Boy]

I love France, because they are so terrifyingly random.
They can beat anyone on their day and they can get slaughtered on another day.

 

[gaston le gaff]

Can I have in  I'd never drop. But France have no chance of slam or World Cup.

firstly are you old enough and can you last the pace, secondly France have a good a chance as anyone at the moment, probably favourites with Ireland, the only other undeafeated N H team, seems such a long time ago, France crap, France this, France that, and now still unbeaten, so funny to hear the comments from Blighty we lost by only 3 pts against the best in the world, ha ha, they lost full stop!!! Ireland still great and will win this afternoon, but the Georgians will give them problems!!!! so will be watching this afternoon, will Lancaster keep his job, will England continue on this slippery slope, reminds me of that song "no wheels on my chariot (or is it wagon)and it keeps rolling or breaking down????

 

[gaston le gaff]

I actually really like France, certainly more than Australia. My parents live there, I've spent a large portion of my life in the country and I support France in Rugby League (the national side and my super league side is the Catalans).
What I'm not is one eyed and blind to transgressions. France were very very lucky on a number of occasions with their foul play. Australia were very very lucky not to lose Skelton to the bin (I think he should've gone, not binning him just because the player didn't land on his head is a weird one) but other than that they didn't get the rub of the green. Hooper shouldn't have been binned for his high tackle as it was clearly an accident and not malicious - the French player was landing from a jump and ducked slightly - this coupled with Hooper coming in hell for leather on the blitz saw his tackle go high.

People are too paranoid to see some conspiracy from posters on here with regards to how they view others nations/teams. I don't hate France, I'm not "butthurt" about their win because I wanted them to win, and also had money on them to win.




Also it's very easy to make something of England's two losses but they were against the number 1 and number 2 in the World.
France played Fiji and Australia - not really comparable to the All Blacks and the Springboks.

There's no need for cheap WUMing/trolling.

Listen to yourself a day of French Bashing, then comments like i love the French and France, why should you have to look up whether TT is French we all know he is French, if you know anything about French rugby, as you are a great lover of the country, just like lots of you, when France is down kick them in the teeth, but England lost twice and at home, so just take it on the chin and nobody is trolling or Wuming (whatever that is) and two negatives (two loses) don't make a positive get over it my son you lost end of story. So Wales are what in your mind they lost to Australia, yet France so so so so so so LUCKY beat Australia. apart from the last 5 mins there was never any doubt on the result. France were the better team not the finished product but still the better team